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    Cheremia's Avatar
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    Awashio Sazanami
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 100
    Oh wow, I would never have thought to just "carry" and WIN!

    What an insight, I should have just thought of winning all of these, somehow, huh:

    https://imgur.com/a/cPXMY86

    Is it because i mostly play sch by now? Is it my fault that we lost these?
    Because sometimes, everybody but one person tried, and even then my entire team couldn't keep up with the enemies all doing their job and our team missing a person basically.

    I did purge a lot of screenshots but theres still a lot of baffling ones sometimes.

    It was always bad, it still continues to be so, even in platinum and up, but, I will say this again

    Having 3 ranks in the same pool is not a good thing.
    Deranking is, but having unranked-gold in the same pool just feels bad because if you are unlucky, which i was for a bit, you get many people in your team that can not hit buttons.

    It IS harder because you claw your way to gold and for what? You see no progress until you are gold1 or get the lucky platinum lobby and winstreak your way to platinum in hopes your team is the one that can press buttons.

    Yes, I also have screens where the enemies had the people that had 0 healing, did not press buttons, etc.
    It just feels bad to be gold and get people that are trying pvp for the first time and not in casual mode, but ranked.

    I'm aware that I also was not able to do a lot of damage sometimes, simply for the fact that I tried to survive. Or have a lot of deaths myself because enemies targeted me first because the rest of my team didn't fight back etc. Aka enemies were smart and took me out because I was fighting back while my team barely did.

    But uhm... you can not carry people, sometimes 1 is enough to throw everybody under the bus, but if you have 2 or 3 it's basically a lost cause and NOBODY can tell me to "just carry" or "play better" or "play a class that can solokill 5 people over and over, its easy"

    You DO need skill to win.
    But you also need a LOT of luck to get people that also know how to play.
    And the wider pool just means that it IS indeed harder... but yeah, should just carry better, duh
    (and Impbots are still a thing, had it happen to me in frontlines a few times and it's hilarious)

    Edit:
    As for call outs: People rarely listen to "fall back and regroup" or "Me(my class) pushing crystal now" and they all either rush in or cuddle with me on the crystal even if not needed.
    They do nothing with lb callouts when I was smn either.

    What people DO listen to is: Person dies- PUSH CRYSTAL!!!!!!!! That's what everybody listens to

    Good callouts largely get ignored.
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    Last edited by Cheremia; 09-06-2022 at 12:33 AM.

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    ThaCa's Avatar
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    ^^^^^

    Some Jobs are definately more harder than others, I avoided playing SCH even though it's my second most played in low ranks because it's effectiveness directly relates to your team. SMN was fine for blowing through the Bronze but it lacks in ability to finish people off compared to some other Jobs despite being AoE monster.

    I mostly played NIN to get out of the Bronze - Gold bracket because the addition of Gold to that bracket majorly messed up the team balance and once you hit Gold you are almost guarateed a team of Bronze, maybe some Silvers so unless you have some good late joiners in your team you have to carry hard. I don't even main NIN, just played it occasionally in frontlines, but since it's incredibly slippery with both good survival and burst and potentially huge swingy LB it was great for carrying clueless teams and even better at stomping the clueless enemies who sometimes can't find their Recuperate button in that bracket.

    Don't take me wrong, there will be unwinnable games even if you basically get a team kill at some point, because a lot of newer players auto pilot into 1-3v5 fights and keep feeding until you lose. A lot of others seem to refuse to belive that a single player can make that big difference in a match, because the lower the overall skill level of the match is the more powerful plays a good player can make IF their Job has the tools to do it. It is much easier to carry a game against literal bots with something like NIN, DRG, GNB etc. than as SCH or BRD for example.

    They really need to tighten up the brackets again, as now it is the Bronze - Gold is like a Casual match with few people trying to win and Plat up feels like mix of old Crystal, there are few people who definately got carried there as they play like old Crystal 0 ratings in mix with some really good players who haven't finished their climb yet.
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    Amelimie's Avatar
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    Amelimie Khamazom
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    Atomos
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    ^^^^^

    Some Jobs are definately more harder than others, I avoided playing SCH even though it's my second most played in low ranks because it's effectiveness directly relates to your team. SMN was fine for blowing through the Bronze but it lacks in ability to finish people off compared to some other Jobs despite being AoE monster.

    I mostly played NIN to get out of the Bronze - Gold bracket because the addition of Gold to that bracket majorly messed up the team balance and once you hit Gold you are almost guarateed a team of Bronze, maybe some Silvers so unless you have some good late joiners in your team you have to carry hard. I don't even main NIN, just played it occasionally in frontlines, but since it's incredibly slippery with both good survival and burst and potentially huge swingy LB it was great for carrying clueless teams and even better at stomping the clueless enemies who sometimes can't find their Recuperate button in that bracket.

    Don't take me wrong, there will be unwinnable games even if you basically get a team kill at some point, because a lot of newer players auto pilot into 1-3v5 fights and keep feeding until you lose. A lot of others seem to refuse to belive that a single player can make that big difference in a match, because the lower the overall skill level of the match is the more powerful plays a good player can make IF their Job has the tools to do it. It is much easier to carry a game against literal bots with something like NIN, DRG, GNB etc. than as SCH or BRD for example.

    They really need to tighten up the brackets again, as now it is the Bronze - Gold is like a Casual match with few people trying to win and Plat up feels like mix of old Crystal, there are few people who definately got carried there as they play like old Crystal 0 ratings in mix with some really good players who haven't finished their climb yet.
    This prick had 22 wins to plat and doesn't stfu. Read the post above and stop posting.
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    Vatom's Avatar
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    Vatom Basilisk
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    Midgardsormr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheremia View Post
    Oh wow, I would never have thought to just "carry" and WIN!
    .
    Im a little lost care to explain this a bit more
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