Bot report response time is hilarious

[Darthgummibear]

SE needs to stop worrying about the bots and just start banning the root cause.

people buying gil. without that incentive, there would be little desire for the groups that run the bots to make gil by various means.

SE needs to stop treating the symptom of the problem, and give the buyers a serious vacation, then a ban.

And how do you propose to address that issue without nuking a bunch of innocent players in the process?

[Kes13a]

And how do you propose to address that issue without nuking a bunch of innocent players in the process?

I was thinking just pick people at random.. how else?

you honestly think SE has no way to track gil buildups on their OWN SERVERS? and then track that gil to where it goes? do I think they would hire people to do it? of course not, but it is the only way to do it. get rid of the supply of real money to these groups and suddenly, running bot rings isnt so attractive. the people buying are the problem, start actioning them.. and the overall bot issues lessen

[Darthgummibear]

I was thinking just pick people at random.. how else?

you honestly think SE has no way to track gil buildups on their OWN SERVERS? and then track that gil to where it goes? do I think they would hire people to do it? of course not, but it is the only way to do it. get rid of the supply of real money to these groups and suddenly, running bot rings isnt so attractive. the people buying are the problem, start actioning them.. and the overall bot issues lessen

And what criteria would they use that wouldn't penalize legitimate players?

[Kes13a]

And what criteria would they use that wouldn't penalize legitimate players?

back in the olden days, companies did that all the time. its possible to do.

legitimate players would have legitimate and traceable reasons for moving large sums of money. most buyers AND seller will not. or are you defending buying gil?

[Darthgummibear]

back in the olden days, companies did that all the time. its possible to do.

legitimate players would have legitimate and traceable reasons for moving large sums of money. most buyers AND seller will not. or are you defending buying gil?

While this is technically true, those same companies had more manpower. This would require a not insignificant number of staff dedicated to this exact purpose. The most realistic course of action would be to nuke the botting programs, but they have expressed zero interest in doing so. Both solutions require a large amount of resources in a situation where those resources are already strapped to the limit. And no, certainly not defending it. People who buy gil are cancer.

[Kes13a]

While this is technically true, those same companies had more manpower. This would require a not insignificant number of staff dedicated to this exact purpose. The most realistic course of action would be to nuke the botting programs, but they have expressed zero interest in doing so. Both solutions require a large amount of resources in a situation where those resources are already strapped to the limit. And no, certainly not defending it. People who buy gil are cancer.

I dont disagree they would need more, far more than their 4 person STF now. basic fact is they are doing next to nothing and show little interest in actually dealing with the problem in any reasonable way

[vetch]

While this is technically true, those same companies had more manpower. This would require a not insignificant number of staff dedicated to this exact purpose.

Small indie developer, profit margins very tight, please understand.

[DerpyWhiskers]

Also noteworthy, idk how it is on other servers, but if you hang around Faerie New Gridania Aetherite bridge and watch the Chocobokeep, you can count dozens of bots some days earning the achievement from underground, teleporting up above ground, then going back underground for a moment for some reason, then back up above ground a few moments, then teleporting normally away to who knows where. Sometimes they even glitch out and pile up at the Aetherite. Almost always with whacky names nobody would ever pick to play like Dgkjsadfoiyu Msdrsdkjgbnmcr.