Once again new jobs did not get new glowing weapons.

[Deveryn]

I actually don't want them to make a reaper or sage weapon for anything before ShB, but those jobs are at the regular level to do those, and would make sense to have them. Think about how crazy everyone would go for a Hades scythe, mat would become even more expensive.

Also the MB is beyond pitiful for Sage and Reaper, just like it was for GNB and Dancer. Just feels weird that they pick and choose. I understand the Thordan weapons because of the Ultimate.

There's nothing weird about it if you look at what they choose. Like I said, it's all about the progression. They could have easily saved some time and made a ridiculous weapon at 70 so people wouldn't have to think about replacing it on their way to the current tier.

Thordan is a perfect example of the whole process with trial weapons and how relatively simple the eventual shiny updates are.

New concepts for the current tier were produced.
May as well go back and add these with different effects.

[Deceptus]

It is pretty ridiculous that they knew these new jobs were going to exist but didn't make weapons for them. It's not like Reaper and Sage were a surprise that came out of nowhere.

[Jonathan_Clover]

It really is a shame, because I've been hoping for/looking forward to Sage getting the floating hands from Emerald Weapon as Nouliths. It'd be pretty obvious to do.

Here's hoping that the Relic weapons don't look awful.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Yep, the developers half-assing their job again.

It's a wonder why people think they ever do a good job. Most things they work on are only half done or never get updated.

Care to list...at least 20 examples?

[Lauront]

Smol indie company plz understand.

But for real didn't they just hire around 300 new roles across the Enix team? Sure not all of them will be working on 14 but even so, there is literally no reason why they can't make new models for a change rather than just re-skinning old ones.

Unless all the good members of staff are working on a new game..

Oh wait.

smol indy company can also never dream of being able to afford to outsource work to a studio like this...

What makes you think some classes should get a set and some shouldn't lol? If they're going to release reskins of older sets than they can do the bare minimum of modeling new weapons for sage and reaper.

Hades nouliths and scythe when.

[Boblawblah]

Yep, the developers half-assing their job again.

It's a wonder why people think they ever do a good job. Most things they work on are only half done or never get updated.

I always have to wonder at comments like these. So you're actively paying money for an extended period of time for something that they never do a good job, and half-ass everything. Why would they change anything if the people that hate what they're doing are still paying them?

[Deveryn]

smol indy company can also never dream of being able to afford to outsource work to a studio like this...



Hades nouliths and scythe when.

Probably never. When I mentioned the Hades set in a comment, I forgot they actually made that set already, back in 5.5 before the jobs were even out.

[Padudu]

smol indy company can also never dream of being able to afford to outsource work to a studio like this...



Hades nouliths and scythe when.

don't you know?? SE is a struggling company that doesn't have its own design team and they can't afford to outsource work!! they can't make new models of weapons!!! It's so hard to model new weapons for them since they obviously have a hard time thinking of new designs. ( You know, having a hard time doing the job that they're supposed to.. poor little SE :/ you can expect it NEVER because they struggle with this so much

[Syrri]

don't you know?? SE is a struggling company that doesn't have its own design team and they can't afford to outsource work!! they can't make new models of weapons!!! It's so hard to model new weapons for them since they obviously have a hard time thinking of new designs. ( You know, having a hard time doing the job that they're supposed to.. poor little SE :/ you can expect it NEVER because they struggle with this so much

[Padudu]

Where is the argument against staff increases?

If there are any trolls to be found, it's those that think just because they went back and skinned the old weapons, they can easily make some new ones. As folks like to do, I'll minimize the effort as best as possible: The trial weapon recipes are nothing more than copy / pasta, stick this effect somewhere. Coming up with new weapons that properly fit that theme is not the same effort. You wanna hear a cliche? "Everything is so easy because tHeY hAvE mOnEy." Nothing says you've never even set foot in a corporate or game dev environment quite like this.

That doesn't change the fact that MMO devs are constantly trying to move forward and avoid looking back at old things too much. It would be great if they could go back and fill in gaps, but there are clear priorities. If not getting a pretty design from 3 years ago is breaking your investment, perhaps you need to sort out your own priorities.

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