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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    You say, while using polls from GameFaqs and Reddit to help with your daily fallacious appeal to majority.
    It's not "fallacious" if it's completely true. I love how there's evidently dozens of sites that are filled with "toxic positivity" where people profusely praise the game and don't accept anything negative, there's this one site here where negativity reigns, and somehow it must be a myth that people far and away are enjoying the game. Truly impressive delusions there; just deny every shred of evidence that doesn't fit your view, eh?

    (Weren't you the clown who, only a few days ago talked about how 95% of players agreed with whatever your stance of the moment was?)
    I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. When you need to make stuff up out of thin air to attack someone, it serves only as tacit admittance that you can't actually refute them.

    If you want to dismiss a 600 hundred page thread as a complete outlier in your stats
    As mentioned, in and of itself it's meaningless. Look at the thread and you'll see the same people posting over and over, some of whom don't even agree with the title. Heck, I could make a post saying "Cats are better than dogs," go back and forth agreeing with someone about how cats are cooler, have a few people join in saying dogs are better, and say "Look! There's a whole bunch of responses in thread titled "cats are better," therefore they must be!" Yes, relying on your one thread is foolish and meaningless.

    Square Enix themselves certainly seem to believe that the forums represent something since in some cases (the Hrothgar hairstyle drama), they directly came here to ask the opinion of the playerbase. Not on reddit. Not on gamefaqs. Here.
    Of course they did. Because naturally a company will ask a question on its own forums. Blizzard gets lambasted left and right for their tendency to post on Twitter instead of their own forums. And this forum does have some useful, actual constructive criticism. I've posted some myself. Specific threads like the one you mention are a good example. It's just the exception compared to the cesspool of negativity that pervades many other threads.

    And that's rich. Let's ignore all of those other websites that show EW, the Scions, etc. are very popular. Let's ignore that we say Venat has a huge fanbase of diehard supporters who accept nothing negative to be said. But let's take the one place on the internet that trends negative and claim it's the only "legitimate" one. No polls count except the ones I like! When did Trump enter the chat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    You say, while using polls from GameFaqs and Reddit to help with your daily fallacious appeal to majority.
    Kazhar, you're not respecting his majoritah! He's in the majoritah and thus must be respected as he speaks for the great majoritah of players out there in the aether. The majoritah's word is law and we must respect his opinion! Shame on you for disrespecting the majoritah. Shame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It's not "fallacious" if it's completely true.
    You poor majoritah, did the mean majoritah-disrespecting Hrothgar man hurt your feeling of superioritah? Don't worry, for you are the majoritah and no matter what he says, you must indeed be correct for you are the majoritah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Let's ignore that we say Venat has a huge fanbase of diehard supporters who accept nothing negative to be said.
    The way you describe it, a certain word comes to mind. Ah yes - cult. Those are well known for being able to assess a product on its objective merits. Though I don't think anyone would deny this game has some very cultish fans. As I am sure you can vouch for from your own personal experience in that capacity.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 09-03-2022 at 10:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. When you need to make stuff up out of thin air to attack someone, it serves only as tacit admittance that you can't actually refute them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Are you suggesting the only possible content in the game are striking dummies or instances? I learn my abilities and how they interact just from normal questing, doing FATEs, etc.. Put simply, you're not likely to get a random average player to spend time at a practice dummy. That's for people who want to absolutely optimize their rotation and maximize their dps for high-level content. For the other 95% of the playerbase, it's pointless.
    This you ?
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