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  1. #11
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    I rejoiced when I saw Fran from FFXII… It made me believe we was going to return to Ivalice properly, especially because she hinted we would cross paths again. That’s the only game I would love to see make another appearance in XIV…
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    I rejoiced when I saw Fran from FFXII… It made me believe we was going to return to Ivalice properly, especially because she hinted we would cross paths again. That’s the only game I would love to see make another appearance in XIV…
    Of all Final Fantasy worlds, Ivalice is certainly the one with the most material to draw from, bar FFXI's Vana'diel. Now that Endwalker is done we can only hope that Maehiro, Matsuno, and other writers who worked on Ivalice games make a comeback for 7.0. The fact that they attempted to wrap up the Ivalice plotline via field notes is something that I still find unacceptable to this day.

    The Return to Ivalice raids could have definitely done a better job of introducing the lore to the player, but I still find it hard to believe that the story of Bozja was apparently so unpopular that it warranted such a hasty conclusion. Whether they obtained such feedback from Final Fantasy fans who came here for a rich world and story or those who endlessly like and retweet pictures of the scions without being very invested in FFXIV's actual world remains a mystery.
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    There's always that problem of actually pleasing the fans of source material, isn't there? You hear a lot about it with the Marvel movies. VII, VIII and X are the only ones I finished. I appreciate the references and it's especially fun to see other people get excited about titles they played brought to life again.

    MMOs have more or less kept me from making a dent in the other titles. Having played what MMOs I have and seen so many go, that's where my focus is and how I primarily judge XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    I am OK with them bringing characters and themes from other games, and they have done it well so far, but for major characters and stuff it should not be done for nostalgia alone. If anything I would like to see them use such elements in new and interesting ways that still adds to FFXIVs own unique lore, rather then just “Look! Its Thingyme from an old game! You like them right?”
    I admit, I giggled like a school girl when I first heard Golbez's music, but yea, then we get "zero" and now I'm just groaning. Are we going to just remake all the FF games stories as separate mini-patches now? It's a bit silly. Having some fanservice from the old FF games being as part of the Hildebrand quests is one thing, or having Lightning show up for a special event, but having the main story quest bring in a bunch of other FF characters is another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Of all Final Fantasy worlds, Ivalice is certainly the one with the most material to draw from, bar FFXI's Vana'diel. Now that Endwalker is done we can only hope that Maehiro, Matsuno, and other writers who worked on Ivalice games make a comeback for 7.0. The fact that they attempted to wrap up the Ivalice plotline via field notes is something that I still find unacceptable to this day.

    The Return to Ivalice raids could have definitely done a better job of introducing the lore to the player, but I still find it hard to believe that the story of Bozja was apparently so unpopular that it warranted such a hasty conclusion. Whether they obtained such feedback from Final Fantasy fans who came here for a rich world and story or those who endlessly like and retweet pictures of the scions without being very invested in FFXIV's actual world remains a mystery.
    I have a sneaking suspicion they aren't done with Ivalice just yet, considering Matsuno had stated in a tweet that Save The Queen (not his involvement with FFXIV) was done. With the way they ended things in the Field Notes, it felt like he was purposefully setting up loose threads to grab onto the next time he's called in to help. Also, from what I heard, the pandemic put a kibosh on a lot of stuff planned for Save the Queen. Apparently there was supposed to be a different zone area that led to Delebrum (likely Zadnor), with a 3rd and final area planned. But due to the pandemic pushing everything back and causing issues, Save the Queen was given the short end of the stick and got hit the hardest (since it had the most assets).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I wonder how many people play FF14 while never having touched another FF game, cause I'm one of them.
    A lot. Of my friend group/fc members, none of them were really into FF before starting. Since playing some of them have played some games, but they usually rely on me to explain the references lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I have a sneaking suspicion they aren't done with Ivalice just yet, considering Matsuno had stated in a tweet that Save The Queen (not his involvement with FFXIV) was done. With the way they ended things in the Field Notes, it felt like he was purposefully setting up loose threads to grab onto the next time he's called in to help.
    I found an article that contains his tweets, and he did say he won’t be writing for XIV in the future in regards to Ivalice. Allegedly the project wasn’t well received in Japan.. Which is a downright shame.

    https://gamerescape.com/2021/06/24/y...l-fantasy-xiv/

    Even so, I’m hoping they can give it another shot… just like aveyond said, there’s so much material they could use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I wonder how many people play FF14 while never having touched another FF game, cause I'm one of them.
    I was one of them when I first started playing XIV. lol I have since played a few others (including XI, the OTHER mmo. lol) and one of the Dissidia games and I can appreciate the various references to the other FF games that they include into XIV, and quite frankly, I'm still surprised just how many references there are. lol

    Personally I'd love to see Iroha from the XI crossover event maybe brought into the story at some level since at the end of that event she just walked out of the town (presumably) and we never find out if she managed to get back to her world at all, so it's theoretically possible. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    Somebody I met totally spoiled this patch for me. Which is why I think adding characters from previous games is lame.
    They told me Golbez is from ff4 and that he had a pet dragon. Sure enough that’s how our patch story went. So that person I met already knew what was going to happen. I imagine it seems boring for people who know how everything is going to happen. I hope they don’t do this again in future story..
    It's actually not boring, since we know what they were like, we just don't know how they're going to be in FF14. An example, we knew about Golbez, but we didn't know how he was going to be portrayed here, or what his plans are. Yes, he had a pet dragon, but he in FFIV also had a multitude of other things dealing with him that haven't popped up yet here. When they use these characters, they often throw curveballs. Such as Greg and Jim in the Hildibrand questline.
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    I was more of an FF guy than an mmo guy, having bought and finished every main FF game since the first one. It's cool seeing some of the old characters remade in 3D, but at the same time it's not something I would have done at all. The idea of a fan service game seems antithetical to what a core FF game is supposed to be. In the Sakaguchi era, they kept each game very separate and never reused major story characters and soundtracks from previous games.

    FF XIV has become constant cameos, always looking for ways to adapt nostalgia pieces into the narrative until they've remade the entire FF series inside the XIV universe. Yoshida's style is making me fall out of love with the series. What once stood above all others is now just another game series to me, nothing special. The fan service storyline isn't a dealbreaker but the predictable, repetitive gameplay formula is.

    This being followed by Yoshida-produced XVI, a dark fantasy action game with Clive its lone playable character. That has a different problem in not looking like an FF game at all. Actually Yoshida can't get all the blame because XIII and XV weren't great either. The series has felt lost for a long time. Following his departure from Square, Sakaguchi formed Mistwalker and they produced Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, which are closer to what I wish FF would be.
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