Do people on these forums only complain endlessly?

[Soge01]

[SentioftheHoukai]

We could use more up front toxicity imo. Most of the toxicity here is lame, petty snipes and passive aggression.

Gonna have to agree here. It's infinitely better when the hostility is in your face and open about it. Instead, in the FFXIV forums we get people who insult and denigrate you while pretending to be sweet little angels. If you're gonna be a smarmy, insufferable prig; I'd at least you be feckin' honest about it. The deception and double meanings here are infinitely worse than WoW could ever be.

[Naoki34]

"Endwalker is badly written because it didn't go the way I wanted it to. Also, I love the genocidal mass murderer."

"Island Sanctuaries are bad because it's not instanced housing. There's nothing to do after picking up 9700 nodes to reach rank 10 in the first week. What's a workshop?"

"Datamining has ruined the game. These debuff icons reveal everything about the savage raid and will ruin progression. I don't do savage raiding though."

"Why do you say "first time" in a new instance?"

"I got rescued once so please remove the ability from the game. I can't handle losing control over my character. I'm the main character, nobody should be able to mess with my movement but me."

"Crafting is too easy."

"Crafting is too hard."

"Removed from Ex4 by Japanese group. Racist. I queued into a duty complete group and got removed for not knowing what to do."

It is a national sport for some.

[Sove92]

Nah, it's really just a few ppl of the negativity brigade who poison the discussions and start most of those threads. Makes you miss TitanMen, actually.

[Avatre]

Makes you miss TitanMen, actually.

No. All those threads they started, and many of the resurection posts they did, were so badly done that it can't be called trolling as that insults actual trolling.

As for the amount of negative posts....if it's actual feedback in a way that actually promotes civil discussion, there really is no problem with it. When it's flat out insulting anyone/everyone that likes certain things, then it's not even worth giving them the time of day.

[BaconBits]

No. All those threads they started, and many of the resurection posts they did, were so badly done that it can't be called trolling as that insults actual trolling.

As for the amount of negative posts....if it's actual feedback in a way that actually promotes civil discussion, there really is no problem with it. When it's flat out insulting anyone/everyone that likes certain things, then it's not even worth giving them the time of day.

Bro did you seriously just disrespect our Lord and Savior TitanMen on this most holy of days?

[Snorky]

No, a lot of posters just like to make strawman arguments and personal attacks towards anyone who is invested in the game and using the forum for the intended purpose of providing feedback.

I've been posting on these forums since the early days of ARR and have met a great many wonderful players through these forums. It's really a matter of curating one's personal experience, learning how to politely agree to disagree and recognizing which posters are only there to stir up trouble.

Theodric is absolutely right in what he says. I absolutely love this game, do I thing some things could be better? yes for sure. Do I think some people nitpik yes I do. Do I think that the developers look at their creation with a critical eye yes I do and I also think they want everyone to have a fun experience regardless of ability. People just need something to pick apart so they don't have to think about anything bad things in their own life. It's game therapy I guess.

[Raoabolic]

Gonna have to agree here. It's infinitely better when the hostility is in your face and open about it. Instead, in the FFXIV forums we get people who insult and denigrate you while pretending to be sweet little angels. If you're gonna be a smarmy, insufferable prig; I'd at least you be feckin' honest about it. The deception and double meanings here are infinitely worse than WoW could ever be.

Man, I really miss late 90s/early 2000s internet. Sure beats everyone being passive aggressive because no one wants to get banned for breaking a fragile ego. lol

Bro did you seriously just disrespect our Lord and Savior TitanMen on this most holy of days?

Wait, I thought it was titanwoman. Is this one of those Nald'thal sort of things?
*scratches chin curiously*

[Hurlstone]

It has certainly been... interesting, spending a bit more time at these forums of late and seeing the debates firsthand! I used to post a bit during my original time in ARR but only started playing and reading social sites again last year or so. Mostly I have been lurking but my love of the lore has caused me to creep out of the shell more. No community is ever perfect and exaggerated complaints have always been present (Pretty sure I have seen people here declare they will cancel their subs due to tooltip changes) but negatively is as important aspect feedback. It certainly seems however that things have taken a turn for the worst of late in regards to constructive criticism. Most notably veiled personal attacks are an toxic techniques hidden behind niceties are deployed far more openly now, which really feels uncalled for. I remember the lore forums used to be a rather chill place, and they should really be a venue where one could openly talk about any aspect of lore… now the same arguments just seem to repeat over and over with rising ardour. Say what you will about Endwalker and its story, but the passion it has brought out of people is impressive! I think there are many people on both sides of the pendulum that would like to debate themes and stuff in a more civil way, but feel they cannot for whatever reason, which is a shame.

It should be noted that I do not think this is a unique thing to this community, it seems to have been the norm in almost every social space or forum I have attended. Its very interesting in a way, and disconcerting. It is always worth remembering too that we are all just a very small minority of players who actually bother to find a social media site or forum and speak out. Whilst the people in-game are not perfect in anyway either, I have found it perhaps the most friendly and less intimidating community I have experienced over my twenty or so years of MMO gaming.

Also something that made me really happy recently was the fans over on Twitch managed to get a Chicken at a petting zoo near London named after Zenos during the pre-6.2 Mogchute Farm Livestream… that gave me pride in the community!

[Leifei]

*Looks at the OP complaining*
You know... You could have a made a non complaining thread. Just sayin'. lol

Ding ding ding.