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    Solo Instanced Housing is easier to make than Island Sanctuary

    Island Sanctuary is so much more complicated and nuanced than solo instanced housing and still lacks the things people want from housing. At this point it feels like the devs are laughing at us showing us they can do it but they refuse to. The entire island is practically bigger than any housing ward, it has it\\'s own separate crafting/gathering, it has a completely different currency system, you can move entire buildings with ease, capture and raise animals (feed them, harvest from them, name them) and you can let minions free roam. It\\'s an insult at this point knowing we want more housing yet they, instead chose not to give us housing but instead wasted way more server space just to reward us with items through what is essentially another boring time sink. If 7.0 doesn\\'t have a new housing system people are going to be even more furious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxman09 View Post
    If 7.0 doesn\\'t have a new housing system people are going to be even more furious.
    Not really, people will keep on the copium and hope for new wards.
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    Says the game developer professional, I am sure.

    I find this to be one of the less-favorable things people do. That is, complain about something and then declare with gusto that the fix they have in their head is "super simple," and "why don't they just do it like this, it's much easier."

    Do folks even understand anymore what it's like to learn something and then do it professionally, accumulating thousands of hours doing this thing? Do people actually believe that with six seconds of thought and a forum post, they've "out-smarted" the game developers?

    I see this everywhere, not just game forums. How did humanity become so oblivious and ignorant?

    /shrug
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    You're right and that's why they've done instanced-housing long time ago.
    Even two of them actually.

    Apartment and FC Room.
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    I agree that Housing is a major issue that needs to be fixed, but to be fair the issue only really blew up after 6.1, and Island Sanctuary was likely already deep into development there. Besides I do think you are perhaps underestimating the ease at which such things are created.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    I agree that Housing is a major issue that needs to be fixed, but to be fair the issue only really blew up after 6.1, and Island Sanctuary was likely already deep into development there. Besides I do think you are perhaps underestimating the ease at which such things are created.
    I moved entire servers when they announced Shirogane with the hopes of getting a house. People were complaining even back then of how bad it was. I guess after Shadowbringers with the huge influx of people it probably only got worse over time but people have been complaining about this issue for a long time.

    That said, I'm hopeful that Island Sanctuary might be a testing ground for more expansive instanced personal housing. Similar to how we only got female Viera but seeing their popularity, they added male Viera. (Though to be honest I really believe Yoshi-P intended to add males from the get-go despite what was said since concept art of male Viera had been shown as early as Heavensward).
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    people complaining about not being able to get into island Sanctuary now times that by 1000x with instance housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    people complaining about not being able to get into island Sanctuary now times that by 1000x with instance housing.
    Why do you assume it would be 1000x worse? Players can only be in one place at a time.

    Players who want to spend all their time in housing would already be doing it. There would be a brief surge in server traffic when any major housing update was introduced, just as we're seeing now with Island Sanctuary, then things would go back to normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxman09 View Post
    Island Sanctuary is so much more complicated and nuanced than solo instanced housing and still lacks the things people want from housing.
    There are significant similarities between IS and what an instanced housing solution would look like. Getting instancing right is a hard problem. Layering user customizable spaces on top of it is another hard problem. My best guess is that they only had the resources (budget, schedule, and people) to solve one of the two and to justify it they slapped a mini-game on top of the instancing project, called it IS, and released it as a 6.2 feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    people complaining about not being able to get into island Sanctuary now times that by 1000x with instance housing.
    Slow down there, that's sound logic you're typing there, that type of thing is a no mans land here on the forums.
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