Yoshi P, you need to give people incentive to be top 100, or people won't bother.

[Adeacia]

If you are playing pvp for the rewards, then you are doing it wrong. The only reason to play pvp should be for the fun of pvp. I don't play it regardless of what the rewards may or may not be because I don't like pvp of any kind to begin with no matter what kind it is, or what game it's in.

Have no rewards at all in pvp. Then we can see who actually plays pvp for fun, rather than for stuff.

[Nikoto]

If you are playing pvp for the rewards, then you are doing it wrong. The only reason to play pvp should be for the fun of pvp. I don't play it regardless of what the rewards may or may not be because I don't like pvp of any kind to begin with no matter what kind it is, or what game it's in.

Have no rewards at all in pvp. Then we can see who actually plays pvp for fun, rather than for stuff.

I do not play PvP.
Today I will enter the PvP forums.
Today I will enter a PvP thread.
Today I will give my opinion on PvP.
Today I will suggest removing rewards from PvP.
I do not play PvP.

[Towa-Musa]

i bet the both of you win trade and are angry that you don't get any good rewards so you come to *attempt* to annoy people pointing out legit problems, Sound accurate so far? meanwhile i just play CC for laughs, get 8 kills a match when my team can tie their shoes, if the team cant well i just wait for the match to be over because nobody cares.

[ThaCa]

They should just retroactively give top 100 stuff so my main gets free stuff tbh.

[Towa-Musa]

They should just retroactively give top 100 stuff so my main gets free stuff tbh.

Lol literally kinda what OP is saying "Hey top 100 should get better stuff and not just these stupid frames" hey wanna know something funny? they did that with feast and feast died XD

[GordonGeeko]

Lol literally kinda what OP is saying "Hey top 100 should get better stuff and not just these stupid frames" hey wanna know something funny? they did that with feast and feast died XD

Super dead.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ast/result/20/

[JamieRose]

I got my top 100 title in the first season, and I got my top 30 title for second season, and I really don't have the motivation to climb. The only reason why I'm forcing myself to climb is because I want to kick more bad players out of top 100, which is why I climb with an alt character as well.

Yoshi P, I understand that you don't want casual players to miss out the rewards, which is why instead of letting top 100 players get exclusive rewards, you would much rather have everyone get the rewards via the series. But allow me to tell you that this is a bad idea, because once players get their top 100, top 30, top 1 title, they have no reason to go back in. We already got the title to brag about.

There's a better way with how you handle the rewards for the hardcore and casual pvpers. Like say if we're on season 4 now, top 100 players from that season gets an exclusive mount. So we'll have that mount when season 4 ends, and then we can show it off to people during season 5. However, by season 6, casual players who did not get to top 100 may get the exclusive mount from season 4 with trophy crystals at the wolves den.

So therefore, everybody wins! It's the same thing as the incentive to raid. The savage raiders may get the highest iLvl gear, but the casual players are just going to catch up to the hardcore raiders with gear progression in next patch. It's the same thing with pvp, we're the early adopters of the exclusive glamour and gear, but by next season, the casual players may have it as well.

You already fixed up the win-trading issue. It's not the perfect solution, but what you did really turns away the win-traders. So this is something you can implement easily. Without the incentive to be top 100, it's going to die early again in data centers like Materia. I'm only doing it right now because I want to continue to support the content on this dead cope Materia (OCE) data center that doesn't have enough population for me to ignore and then expect people to keep it alive.

I'm aware people can argue that this is just Materia's issue, because we don't have the population. And that is true, but honestly, I still feel like it would be a better idea. I do want both types of players have a win-win situation.

The Top 100, I could not possibly care less about these people.

[Towa-Musa]

Super dead.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ast/result/20/

LOL dude theres literally only 100 mfs that played feast bwahahahhahahah

Edit: oop nope, there more people but less then i expected still, pretty darn funny lookin at this.

[GordonGeeko]

It just bothers me all the people that are saying : Top 100 doesn't work, no one played Feast even with better rewards.

No, people did play Feast. You'd have streamers showcasing their games every night non-stop. Some slight pauses here and there if they didn't play healer, sure, but that's a forced team composition problem.

It's also extremely lazy thinking to assume that everyone who made Top 100 was a cheater. You have literal video proof of hundreds of matches of people grinding to make it to top 100 every night for months. Were there cheaters ? Probably a few that didn't get reported, yeah. But to claim that it was this overwhelming majority is just ludicrous. It's like saying that because a few people bought Ultimate clears, everyone that has beaten an Ultimate didn't earn it. It's an intellectual shortcut and it's weak.

There is a competitive PVP community. Give them something to work for other than a lame portrait that keeps looking the same and they'll show up.

[Towa-Musa]

It just bothers me all the people that are saying : Top 100 doesn't work, no one played Feast even with better rewards.

No, people did play Feast. You'd have streamers showcasing their games every night non-stop. Some slight pauses here and there if they didn't play healer, sure, but that's a forced team composition problem.

It's also extremely lazy thinking to assume that everyone who made Top 100 was a cheater. You have literal video proof of hundreds of matches of people grinding to make it to top 100 every night for months. Were there cheaters ? Probably a few that didn't get reported, yeah. But to claim that it was this overwhelming majority is just ludicrous. It's like saying that because a few people bought Ultimate clears, everyone that has beaten an Ultimate didn't earn it. It's an intellectual shortcut and it's weak.

There is a competitive PVP community. Give them something to work for other than a lame portrait that keeps looking the same and they'll show up.

nah let it die, they tried it with feast and it dropped off pretty fast. also cheating is super prevalent XD you got mfs that still wintrade TO THIS DAY and they are currently in top 100. all the previous armors gotten from feast should be available in the BP since they obviously refuse to fix the win trading problem.