Berserk Reduces Enmity

[Arasiel]

From what I gather Warrior out tanks Paladin due to raw DD. The Paladin is supposed to get buffed soon. However, for longer help to the Warrior I think Berserk should lower Enmity with each swing. Since we are pretty much gonna use Rampage while tanking anyways.

[JackDaniels]

Am I the only one who thinks that this doesn't make any sence at all?

+damage = -emnity?

[Peptaru]

I can understand what he's trying to convey, in that, yes berserk ups damage which = more enm+, but! if i were berserkin i'd love to have an enm- added to it. Do I think it's a good idea? No! I can understand why someone would want it. That would set rampage for tanking and berserk for DD. As it stands now berserk is an unused ability by me, and i'm sure by many others.

[JackDaniels]

Thats like saying I want my emnity lowered every time i cast cure lol.. but if its because pld is broken then its all good i guess? Infact lets just add negative emnity to everything that PLD doesnt use, then we wont have to adjust PLD

[Sortis]

I can understand what he's trying to convey, in that, yes berserk ups damage which = more enm+, but! if i were berserkin i'd love to have an enm- added to it. Do I think it's a good idea? No! I can understand why someone would want it. That would set rampage for tanking and berserk for DD. As it stands now berserk is an unused ability by me, and i'm sure by many others.

This makes no sense...that is exactly what it's meant for, they're essentially stances, Zerk being the DPS stance and Rampage being the tank stance...so why not?

[Sortis]

Thats like saying I want my emnity lowered every time i cast cure lol.. but if its because pld is broken then its all good i guess? Infact lets just add negative emnity to everything that PLD doesnt use, then we wont have to adjust PLD

Yeah! haha and then we can give BLM a spell that does damage and makes them lose enmity! haha oh wait...they already did. Ooo ooo we can give a DD class an ability that makes them lose enmity...oh wait...archer got that huh? hmmm...

[Peptaru]

This makes no sense...that is exactly what it's meant for, they're essentially stances, Zerk being the DPS stance and Rampage being the tank stance...so why not?

Why quote me? I was saying that i can understand where the OP comes from, its not my thing, so gtfo. I don't know any warriors that even use berserk now, unless they hate their whm.

[Sortis]

From what I gather Warrior out tanks Paladin due to raw DD. The Paladin is supposed to get buffed soon. However, for longer help to the Warrior I think Berserk should lower Enmity with each swing. Since we are pretty much gonna use Rampage while tanking anyways.

The -enmity on this would have to be really low or it would be OP as you would never run the risk of getting hate, that would make it way too OP as all other DD jobs in the game have to worry about it.Thing is Zerk I believe resets if you take damage, so half the skill in using it is keeping your hate in check, I understand what you're saying cause the more damage you do the more enmity you generate which is bad, but other jobs do more damage and don't really have anything like that.

Looking at it from another standpoint though...no other Melee DD job has to work so hard at keeping aggro off of him to be effective, I think thats the point the OP is making he just didn't really word it well, or i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt at least. If a MNK or LNC takes a hit it doesn't effect their ability to do damage short of not being able to blindside. However if a WAR using zerk takes a hit after awhile of being in a fight, it can be pretty bad for his damage as zerk builds I believe...so yeah I guess I can see my way to what the OP is saying, but again if you're building -enmity in the stance it can't be bulletproof, it has to be pretty small and just aid in not taking a hit, not make it impossible to pick up hate with a sloppy tank.

[KumaAkuma]

You want to have hate. You want monsters to be attacking you, as a War. Because if you don't have hate, monsters are attacking other classes/job , who shouldn't have hate, who can't deal with it like you can. You are God and you take care of the nasties.

So when would you use Berserk? When you're late to the fight, when you had a clumsy healer, with a brainfart, who let you die, when you need to regain hate on the monsters. And when you do get hate again, you go back to Rampage and reign down terror on your enemies, because you are God.

[Dragon]

Berserk? I don't even use that anymore... Rampage is just so much more secured.