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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    That's...the entire point of an MMO subscription model. To keep players, you know, playing. More content needs to be designed around that, not less.
    I'm not sure why this is meant to matter to us. Those models are designed to keep people spending money, not because they somehow make content more fun to play. Why would I want stuff to be designed in a way that costs me more money?

    Timegating that helps group content stay alive a while longer is understandable, but that's not relevant here. Being able to finish stuff and take a break is good, dragging that out as long as possible doesn't benefit me at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordGiggles View Post
    I'm not sure why this is meant to matter to us. Those models are designed to keep people spending money, not because they somehow make content more fun to play. Why would I want stuff to be designed in a way that costs me more money?

    Timegating that helps group content stay alive a while longer is understandable, but that's not relevant here. Being able to finish stuff and take a break is good, dragging that out as long as possible doesn't benefit me at all.
    No MMO developer in their right mind is ever going to repeat the mistake of spending months on content for people to be done with it just like that.

    We're only 5 days out from release. If you paid for a month just to come back and do this before leaving again, you likely have time to finish this and more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    No MMO developer in their right mind is ever going to repeat the mistake of spending months on content for people to be done with it just like that.

    We're only 5 days out from release. If you paid for a month just to come back and do this before leaving again, you likely have time to finish this and more.
    True, thank god we're only allowed to do three main story quests per day. Not sure the game could cope if you allowed people to grind for trial/duty drops, or to get XP outside of the roulettes and killing world mobs for 10xp each.



    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Whether you like it or not, it's not about you. It's about SE and their profits. Considering people have completed it already, I'd say it is forgiving enough. I've maybe used mine 3-4 times since the patch and I'm already rank 5 without really trying. Whether it's fun or not is subjective, but I personally like this piece of content for what it is and hope they continue to add to it. This game needs more long term content. Island Sanctuary does appear to be that by design, even if people are brute forcing the grind.
    Sure, but I'm not tied to SE in any way at all outside this game, so I'm not going to pretend I have any reason to care about their profits. Obviously they can just do whatever they like, barely anything posted here ever gets changed. We're just posting our opinions, not roleplaying shareholders.

    "Long term content" is something you can experience with basically everything in the game. Just play whatever content less often and you've got an entire game full of it. Of course you can still grind absurdly and power through island, but that's true for anything, excluding time limits on rewards for some content.

    If the island would stop being fun because you can reasonably progress in it more often, is it actually fun in the first place? If you must have limits like that, shouldn't there be some other fun content related to the island that you can do in the downtime?

    I'm not sure I've ever played something and thought "wow this would be really cool if I just got pushed into afking for hours/days for normal progress, sucks until then though".
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordGiggles View Post
    If you must have limits like that, shouldn't there be some other fun content related to the island that you can do in the downtime?
    Not related to the island but there is a lot of fun content. Not everything is equally fun to everyone but some examples are doing quests, dungeons, roulettes, raids, gathering, crafting, treasure maps, hunting, role playing

    I'm curious to know what you did in downtimes before Island Sanctuary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordGiggles View Post
    If the island would stop being fun because you can reasonably progress in it more often, is it actually fun in the first place? If you must have limits like that, shouldn't there be some other fun content related to the island that you can do in the downtime?
    You mean like the rest of the game? The island is a place to go in between everything else. It's not for everybody, but it's something people actually like, just like every other part of the game. If it was a legitimate failure, then this opinion might hold some weight. It's working as intended and you're welcome to leave it alone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LordGiggles View Post
    I'm not sure why this is meant to matter to us. Those models are designed to keep people spending money, not because they somehow make content more fun to play. Why would I want stuff to be designed in a way that costs me more money?

    Timegating that helps group content stay alive a while longer is understandable, but that's not relevant here. Being able to finish stuff and take a break is good, dragging that out as long as possible doesn't benefit me at all.
    Whether you like it or not, it's not about you. It's about SE and their profits. Considering people have completed it already, I'd say it is forgiving enough. I've maybe used mine 3-4 times since the patch and I'm already rank 5 without really trying. Whether it's fun or not is subjective, but I personally like this piece of content for what it is and hope they continue to add to it. This game needs more long term content. Island Sanctuary does appear to be that by design, even if people are brute forcing the grind.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 08-28-2022 at 01:41 PM.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.