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    WellGramarye's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    if Amaurot is modern Washington DC, we don't know if the volcano island Azem saved was Hawaii or New Zealand.

    But what we DO know is that when the End of Days finally hit the city of Amaurot's shores, they decreed 'let's sacrifice half the planet to create a god'.
    I'd like to point out again, that it all revolves around Amaurot.

    They didn't sacrifice half the world's population to summon Zodiark. They sacrificed half Amaurot. To the people of Amaurot, ONLY Amaurot mattered. They didn't give one shit about the people on that island, or the people "across the pond," unless it unabashedly profited for Amaurot.

    You can see this clearly in the quest "Debates and Discourse"

    AMAUROTPEOPLED03593
    Indeed, indeed. The same can be said regardless of one's opinion on the morality of intervention. There is a clear and undeniable benefit to Amaurot in using this situation as a test bed for our newest creations, that we might develop and refine our defenses against a potential threat to our own fair city.
    AMAUROTPEOPLEE03593
    How readily you cede the moral high ground! Was not our young friend's point that we have an ethical obligation to aid those in need? Yet not only do you instead elect to focus on the benefit to Amaurot alone, but you also deprive our distant neighbors of the agency to determine their own fate!
    AMAUROTPEOPLED03593
    You misunderstand me. What benefits Amaurot benefits all creation, I firmly believe, for the knowledge and wisdom we stand to gain from intervention can then be shared with others, empowering everyone to more effectively surmount similar trials in the future...
    The Convocation's plan to sacrifice "the burgeoning life on the planet that had started to appear" after the summoning of Zodiark, wasn't to bring back everyone killed by the End of Days, it was to bring back Amaurot.

    The Ascian's grand plan of Re convergence wasn't to bring back the population of the whole world. It was to bring back the people of Amaurot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lurina View Post
    This is wrong. Other civilizations besides Amaurot existed, but they were comprised of the same species. We know this because we learn in The Tempest that they were also experiencing their creation magic going haywire before the phenomenon spread there.

    Hell, in Elpis, it's made clear they don't even have a concept of sapient non-creations on multiple occasions with how they treat the player character.
    You miss read what I wrote I believe. I wasn't talking about species, but talking about people in general. Amaurot citizens saw themself as even above OTHER people in the ancient world. They were the end all be all, and elite of the planet.
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    Last edited by WellGramarye; 08-28-2022 at 01:26 AM.