Looking for a response to Fine Sand and cluster/crystal to shard revamps

[viion]

I'd love a response to this.

Fortunate I stacked up on like 300 stacks of Fine Sand a long time ago

[YukiKoneko]

I am curious if they removed this to try and curb the RMT/bot issues.

I agree on that, but to then have reps actually recommend we go exchange our outdated guild marks for clusters made no sense. Numerous people called this out, but the rep never revised the statement. Besides, the change they made in 1.21 where synthesis is interrupted after ~50 repeated synths curbs botting to some degree, almost as much as the overall changes to crafting itself.

Just a small note:

Yea, I know; however, if you check those threads, you'll see the issues in them date back to 1.19. Questions were raised even then, but the reps never listened. Besides, no harm in pointing out forgotten issues.

[Answa]

Yea, I know; however, if you check those threads, you'll see the issues in them date back to 1.19. Questions were raised even then, but the reps never listened. Besides, no harm in pointing out forgotten issues.

Their work motto doesn't change from patch to patch.

[YukiKoneko]

Back when they weren't charging us, I would be content with that. I know they have a lot of things to do and directly responding to their customers is probably the last thing they want to spend much time on, but they need to know that NA players are just as important as their native Japanese players, and given all the build-up to the revamps to GSM, ALC, and CUL recipes, they should have addressed this long-standing issue. They did not, and that's why I am pushing hard to get a direct response to something that was left out of the changes.

You will recall that Fine Sand actually involves all three crafting classes affected the most by 1.21. It wasn't among the list of items to be removed either in 1.19, or in 1.21. Yet it was mysteriously removed from the ALC guild vender (the only place to buy it, and not at a super cheap price mind you - was somewhere around 1000 gil a pinch). More troubling is that while the recipes to producing fine sand continue to exist, only those recipes that involve breaking down crystals into shards were classified as dated. 1.21 was supposed to finally fill in these gaps, since they have continually threatened to remove all dated recipes at some unknown time.

So there are several issues here. The community reps could have joined the discussion at any point back after 1.19 and they chose not to. Now I'm calling them, and the developers out. We just want answers, we just want to know they haven't overlooked this, and we just want to have some idea of what they plan to do going forward.

Thanks to everyone for keeping this thread alive and viewed, and hopefully the devs and reps will take notice next week after they implement 1.21b.

[Wynn]

I'd love a response to this.

Fortunate I stacked up on like 300 stacks of Fine Sand a long time ago

If only I had done so... Making fine sand is a total PITA <sad face>

[Wynn]

Yet it was mysteriously removed from the ALC guild vender (the only place to buy it, and not at a super cheap price mind you - was somewhere around 1000 gil a pinch).

Actually, fine sand was quite cheap. It was 358 gil per unit. Less than 40k per stack.

[YukiKoneko]

Actually, fine sand was quite cheap. It was 358 gil per unit. Less than 40k per stack.

Was it really? Now I'm kicking myself even more that I didn't stockpile it... I hate buying shards off the market because I know more than 90% of it is likely RMT sellers... I don't want to support those companies... Even if they sold fine sand at 1000 gil a unit, that would still be very cost effective for converting crystals into shards for personal use. I never sold shards (they have been, and will continue to be the true currency of the realm).

[Wynn]

Was it really? Now I'm kicking myself even more that I didn't stockpile it... I hate buying shards off the market because I know more than 90% of it is likely RMT sellers... I don't want to support those companies... Even if they sold fine sand at 1000 gil a unit, that would still be very cost effective for converting crystals into shards for personal use. I never sold shards (they have been, and will continue to be the true currency of the realm).

I always felt they should have just significantly increased the price of find sand instead of removing it.

[YukiKoneko]

SE just continues to ignore us! Obviously, posting nonsense is all the reps are good for lately:

♪ And I was like Bayohne, Bayohne, Bayohne, oooooh, like Bayohne, Bayohne, Bayohne, oooooh ♪

(Yes, I know they post other things, but how about responding to questions that have been ignored for months!!!)

[Answa]

SE just continues to ignore us! Obviously, posting nonsense is all the reps are good for lately:


(Yes, I know they post other things, but how about responding to questions that have been ignored for months!!!)

I'll spell this out for you: b. e. c. a. u. s. e. r. e. p. s. =/= d. e. v. s.

They give us answers when they have them. They have them when devs give them. The devs give them when the information is at all there.

Posting a reference to a shitty Bieber song doesn't require dev confirmation. Thus, he can post whatever the shit he wants.

Do you understand?

You probably won't and will just keep bitching in 3....2....1.....