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[Theodric]

Not at all.

I don't like Zepla.

Is this some other unwritten rule of posting on these forums that I have to be one of her simps?

There's a very vocal portion of FFXIV players who try to accuse people of hating women if they ever criticise someone who happens to be a woman. This extends to fictional characters as well - such as people who dislike Venat being accused of 'hating women' despite that not being the case at all.

In other words, it's just a blatant example of trying to poison the well.

[Sufjann]

There's a very vocal portion of FFXIV players who try to accuse people of hating women if they ever criticise someone who happens to be a woman. This extends to fictional characters as well - such as people who dislike Venat being accused of 'hating women' despite that not being the case at all.

In other words, it's just a blatant example of trying to poison the well.

They literally called Zepla a "booby streamer", as in a streamer that only gets attention because of her body. Which is not her case at all, she is always using normal t-shirts all of the time.

So if she doesn't show cleavage at all, why is she a "booby streamer"? It seems to me that you are arguing in bad faith here.

[Raoabolic]

They literally called Zepla a "booby streamer", as in a streamer that only gets attention because of her body. Which is not her case at all, she is always using normal t-shirts all of the time.

So if she doesn't show cleavage at all, why is she a "booby streamer"? It seems to me that you are arguing in bad faith here.

You know, I always hear they/them/those people talk mess about everyone. Has anyone actually confronted they/them/those? lol

[LianaThorne]

They literally called Zepla a "booby streamer", as in a streamer that only gets attention because of her body. Which is not her case at all, she is always using normal t-shirts all of the time.

So if she doesn't show cleavage at all, why is she a "booby streamer"? It seems to me that you are arguing in bad faith here.

People can have an opinion, you don't need to white knight for her. She'll prob end up reading this thread eventually and use it for a video for easy clicks anyway. She can speak for herself if she really wants to.

Not saying I agree or disagree with said person's opinion, all I know of her is that she makes videos based off threads on here and I call that a lazy way of making content. My opinion which I am allowed to have.

[Sotaris]

People can have an opinion, you don't need to white knight for her. She'll prob end up reading this thread eventually and use it for a video for easy clicks anyway. She can speak for herself if she really wants to.

Not saying I agree or disagree with said person's opinion, all I know of her is that she makes videos based off threads on here and I call that a lazy way of making content. My opinion which I am allowed to have.

I don't think anyone here, in this thread is simping. I commented cause it stroke me pretty odd to call her a booby streamer when it doesn't seem the case.
So it seemed like insulting someone for the sake of insulting. But as I said earlier, I have limited exposure to her content so I could be in the wrong.

If you don't like her content, that's fine but that doesn't mean she's a booby streamer?

[LianaThorne]

I don't think anyone here, in this thread is simping. I commented cause it stroke me pretty odd to call her a booby streamer when it doesn't seem the case.
So it seemed like insulting someone for the sake of insulting. But as I said earlier, I have limited exposure to her content so I could be in the wrong.

If you don't like her content, that's fine but that doesn't mean she's a booby streamer?

There's a stereotype amongst female streamers that most have acquired fame because of their appearance or simply being a girl and having a particularly obsessive male audience. I'm assuming that was the meaning behind it unless Zepla has an OnlyFans or some other platform for that type of content that no one is talking about yet. I honestly wouldn't be shocked considering the growing amount of streamers/youtubers that are getting an account there.

[JamieRose]

There's a stereotype amongst female streamers that most have acquired fame because of their appearance or simply being a girl and having a particularly obsessive male audience. I'm assuming that was the meaning behind it unless Zepla has an OnlyFans or some other platform for that type of content that no one is talking about yet. I honestly wouldn't be shocked considering the growing amount of streamers/youtubers that are getting an account there.

Okay, I see I can't make a sarcastic comment without clarifying things because the TON 618 Black Hole is getting jealous of all the density on display here.

Yeah, I said "booby streamer" in a sarcastic manner. Still Zepla's content is so low rent it's going to put Jimmy Mcmillan out of work. (Google it.)

Cutesy bullcrap, dumb puns (most stolen from me), and dimply smiles laced over harshly elitist opinions and breathless self-endorsement. How this sort of content gets such traction is beyond me.
Her new thing with trolling these forums and reacting to opinions she doesn't like pretty much cements the kind of person she is. Everything with her opinions and reactions, she doesn't even bother to attempt humorous content beyond making bad jokes. At least she used to disguise it with machinima. I guess when you're raking in the money like she does you don't have to really put an effort in anymore. Especially when you're popular enough that you can gatekeep who can interact with you behind "sub-only chat" and now using her influence to get her simps to donate to her pet causes.

There's probably tons of people out there who do her job better than she does, but simps gonna simp.

Furthermore, when I said she was FFXIV's version of Pokimane that wasn't sarcasm. That's pretty much a dead-on description of her.

Sad that I have to get this verbose, but apparently you're not allowed to have an unpopular opinion without an order signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters.

How can you NOT like it when someone tries to go over the top to make their voice as cringy sexual as possible? Top content get some standards please.
/s

That's not her making a voice, she's from Louisiana.

Also, I'm pretty sure no one these forums has any sort of standards.

Me included, if I standards I would have ditched this place long ago.

[Sufjann]

People can have an opinion, you don't need to white knight for her. She'll prob end up reading this thread eventually and use it for a video for easy clicks anyway. She can speak for herself if she really wants to.

Not saying I agree or disagree with said person's opinion, all I know of her is that she makes videos based off threads on here and I call that a lazy way of making content. My opinion which I am allowed to have.

Do you think I hold any power to silence you or anyone here? Am I not allowed to have the opinion that calling a pretty PG 13 content creator a "booby streamer" sounds very focused on her gender to say the least?

I'm also not a fan of her content, it's not for me, but that's not the point. You can dislike whoever, why'd I care?

There's a stereotype amongst female streamers that most have acquired fame because of their appearance or simply being a girl and having a particularly obsessive male audience.

And wouldn't you call that... a sexist stereotype? I don't think it's fair to hold anyone to a stereotype.

[LianaThorne]

Do you think I hold any power to silence you or anyone here? Am I not allowed to have the opinion that calling a pretty PG 13 content creator a "booby streamer" sounds very focused on her gender to say the least?

I'm also not a fan of her content, it's not for me, but that's not the point. You can dislike whoever, why'd I care?


And wouldn't you call that... a sexist stereotype? I don't think it's fair to hold anyone to a stereotype.

You're allowed to have an opinion, never said you couldn't. Just as I can have the opinion that it's white knighting to me.

And it is a sexist one but it also a fact that some female streamers get famous because of their bodies (looking at Amouranth as a prime example). Do I wish people wouldn't automatically place that assumption on ALL women? Absolutely, it's a pain in the neck to have to prove myself to people that even though i am a woman I can exist without sexualizing myself. However, I also can't really blame them though when hot tub streams and licking microphones while moaning is a thing that some women do to gain an audience and it's growing because of how financially successful said women are.

To continue discussing this though would likely lead into how if men would be less invested in the sexual side of the internet, some women might not feel the need to push that forward as much but...that's a whole other story.

[Sufjann]

Do I wish people wouldn't automatically place that assumption on ALL women? Absolutely. Can't really blame them though when hot tub meta and licking microphones while moaning is a thing.

Wait, why wouldn't you blame them? Everyone here should have the capacity to understand that some women licking a microphone doesn't equate to all women licking a microphone, shouldn't they? It's juvenile to think they have no fault in seeing the world that incorrectly.