The Healer Double Standard

[ForteNightshade]

We're more a safety blanket for the greed-god DPS players that mistime the AOE snapshots.

What's ironic is the dev team purposely replaced vulnerability debuffs with damage downs to discourage greedy play, specifically citing it was only "punishing to the healers". What this actually did is reduce an aspect of legitimate greed that encouraged shielding/healing the party to ignore mechanics. So now healers don't even have that to consider. Two healers are kept alive at the Savage only because of a third party website that forces a 2/2/4 comp for ranking. The second that ever changes and one of those healers is being told, "pick a Melee you like."

[Rilifane]

What's ironic is the dev team purposely replaced vulnerability debuffs with damage downs to discourage greedy play, specifically citing it was only "punishing to the healers". What this actually did is reduce an aspect of legitimate greed that encouraged shielding/healing the party to ignore mechanics. So now healers don't even have that to consider. Two healers are kept alive at the Savage only because of a third party website that forces a 2/2/4 comp for ranking. The second that ever changes and one of those healers is being told, "pick a Melee you like."

I was disappointed when they did this.
While I don't agree with the occasional PF demanding GCD shields for a lot of mechanics so they can be lazy, things like uptime balls on e6s were a nice change of pace; there was merit to doing it that way because the alternative is a definite uptime loss and not just someone not feeling like moving. And it was a nice feeling that you first played it as intended but later had the experience, coordination and gear to do this easily without losing healer dps either. It kept the role a bit more alive through a tier and gearing up.
The only cheese strat I can currently think of is Curtain Call with tank lb3, everything else has to be done correctly or you either die or eat the damage down.

[Semirhage]

Oh look, they're buffing tanks even more and effectively removing healer threat generation.

The slow march toward healers having zero impact on a given instance remains unabated.

[RyuDragnier]

Oh look, they're buffing tanks even more and effectively removing healer threat generation.

The slow march toward healers having zero impact on a given instance remains unabated.

Except DRK, who still needs a healer since it can't heal itself.

[Rilifane]

Except DRK, who still needs a healer since it can't heal itself.

I can't speak for all leveling dungeons but at least in experts, the DRKs I had were completely fine without a healer in a 1 tank/ 3 dps run and I have seen them solo bosses down after the party died too. They're not the same healing powerhouses as WAR, PLD and to a lesser extend GNB but they aren't reliant on a healer in most content either. WAR takes the crown but it's not like the other tanks, not even DRK, are helpless without a healer.

[Supersnow845]

And on top of the changes the enmity SGE basically got holos changed to be pneuma 2.0

Did anyone ask for even more healing on any of the healers that just makes double shield and even more desirable comp

[Rilifane]

A common complaint about Holos was that the double effect makes it too difficult to use and that the heal effect is always wasted. Not that I agree with that complaint but I suppose that was SE's way of making it easier to use for two effects at once because SGE is already a nuclear heal bomb.
At least MA and Crown Play are no longer seperate buttons and the 20s on Lilybell are nice.

And I suppose SE ended the "Regens on the run are bad!" vs "If you can't handle a Regen on the run, you are bad!" war by simply deleting aggro from all regens/ auto heals. I wonder if they'll make further changes to enmity from healing because you can still heal on the run with other tools and many healers do it. Lilies, EDia, Adlo, CI ..

Did anyone ask for even more healing on any of the healers that just makes double shield and even more desirable comp

You get more heals and you will like it!
SE has spoken.

[ASkellington]

A common complaint about Holos was that the double effect makes it too difficult to use and that the heal effect is always wasted. Not that I disagree with that complaint but I suppose that was SE's way of making it easier to use for two effects at once because SGE is already a nuclear heal bomb.
At least MA and Crown Play are no longer seperate buttons and the 20s on Lilybell are nice.

And I suppose SE ended the "Regens on the run are bad!" vs "If you can't handle a Regen on the run, you are bad!" war by simply deleting aggro from all regens/ auto heals. I wonder if they'll make further changes to enmity from healing because you can still heal on the run with other tools and many healers do it. Lilies, EDia, Adlo, CI ..



You get more heals and you will like it!
SE has spoken.

Ok. I'll use them just as much now as I will after this patch: not at all.

[HyonaCookie]

And on top of the changes the enmity SGE basically got holos changed to be pneuma 2.0

Did anyone ask for even more healing on any of the healers that just makes double shield and even more desirable comp

According to a friend of mine, it might have to do with SCH being taken into DSR more than SGE because it has more mit potential. Double shield comps are just an side effect of SE's choices.

[Rilifane]

Ok. I'll use them just as much now as I will after this patch: not at all.

No. You will use it and you will love the additional shields nobody needs. Don't make Mr SE give you even more heals to learn your lesson! Just HEAL dammit!

Joking aside, Holos is a good skill. Now if only we had more content where we are happy to have it ...