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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by animeking View Post
    Whenever I heal, I main heal until it seems the tank is good then I'll dps some.
    That's not how healers work. You have a wide range of oGCDs that are instant cast and can be weaved while doing dps. Only when you've exhausted all of them and the tank is in actual danger is it worth stopping your dps to focus GCD heals.
    That last scenario does happen, especially in some leveling dungeons with undergeared tanks, but it's a last resort scenario after you've exhausted your main options.

    Your priority is backwards. It should be "I main dps (with oGCD heals) until it seems the tank isn't good, then I'll heal some". If you aren't going to at least try to contribute everything you have, don't sign up for team based content.
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  2. #32
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    Padudu Moro
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    Quote Originally Posted by animeking View Post
    I've had people complain or just leave the pt because all I did was heal.
    Idc I'm still going to main heal, I'll throw in a dps here and there but I'm not 1 of those healers who will allow the tanks health to drop to 10% before healing.
    These new kids playing this game have adhd.
    Every DRK must hate you lol
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Every DRK must hate you lol
    A shame since Living Dead is basically a DRK's benediction in AOE pulls now. I saw DRKs pop it and decided to stop healing entirely and let them heal themselves.

    Felt amazing.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by animeking View Post
    I'm not talking about savage raids I'm mainly talking basic dungeons and trials.
    Whenever I heal, I main heal until it seems the tank is good then I'll dps some.
    For OP, you're doing fine heal how you want to heal as long as the party is still alive at the end that's all that matters.
    Your gameplay does not change. You're still dpssing most of the time while you're weaving heals. Just take a look at some parse breakdowns. In regular content there's even less to heal.
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  5. #35
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    Jase Shepard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    A shame since Living Dead is basically a DRK's benediction in AOE pulls now. I saw DRKs pop it and decided to stop healing entirely and let them heal themselves.

    Felt amazing.
    This right here. Tanks have very powerful self healing tools. So the game wants us to heal less! If you treat the healer rotation as a DPS rotation while weaving heals you'll be (still bored but) happier than casting a bunch of slow GCD heals that overheal and the mobs go down sooooo muuuuuch sloweeeeeer....
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  6. #36
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    Discount Hrothgar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmaxian View Post
    This right here. Tanks have very powerful self healing tools. So the game wants us to heal less! If you treat the healer rotation as a DPS rotation while weaving heals you'll be (still bored but) happier than casting a bunch of slow GCD heals that overheal and the mobs go down sooooo muuuuuch sloweeeeeer....
    Until you get to the bosses, who are HP sacks designed to last for ages while doing less damage than the trash.

    Or if you actually like healing and pulling people back from the very real danger of death. Then you won't be happier.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmaxian View Post
    This right here. Tanks have very powerful self healing tools. So the game wants us to heal less! If you treat the healer rotation as a DPS rotation while weaving heals you'll be (still bored but) happier than casting a bunch of slow GCD heals that overheal and the mobs go down sooooo muuuuuch sloweeeeeer....
    Tbh the remedy would be to cut down / merge certain heals on various healers to free up space and actually give Healers a tank-esque amount of damage buttons for an actual playstyle / rotation to form. I mean Sage is doing a good job with that, making Eukrasia modify your single target and AOE heal spell.

    You know, like how 4.5 Scholar did.
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  8. #38
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Tbh the remedy would be to cut down / merge certain heals on various healers to free up space and actually give Healers a tank-esque amount of damage buttons for an actual playstyle / rotation to form. I mean Sage is doing a good job with that, making Eukrasia modify your single target and AOE heal spell.

    You know, like how 4.5 Scholar did.
    This will always be met with cries of reduced (oGCD) healing potency, but yes you are absolutely right it'd be trivial to cull down.

    A) Oh no, you are reducing my humongous free-healing stockpile that I almost never have a reason to utilize fully? Whatever will I do?

    B) "But this one time I played Orbonne and the other healer went AFK and I actually had to heal! Think of the DF parties!". Yeah I guess you will actually have to GCD heal more than once when things go especially wrong. Bad Game Design™, I know, but I guess we'll just have to suck up Medica II being a valid move sometimes.

    C) If you absolutely need to keep the healing kit braindead like a bloated corpse anyway, you still can! Make Aquaveil half the cooldown and stack, blam, you've made Benison (even more) redundant. Shorten the generation time for lilies and add a couple more charges, will you even need cooldown buttons?
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  9. #39
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    Until you get to the bosses, who are HP sacks designed to last for ages while doing less damage than the trash.

    Or if you actually like healing and pulling people back from the very real danger of death. Then you won't be happier.
    What are you talking about? The bosses require even less healing than the rest of the trash. I don’t even heal on bosses unless some DRG or BLM stands in the Dunce Circles. I just click Dosis over and over, and look! The tank is getting healed!
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmaxian View Post
    What are you talking about? The bosses require even less healing than the rest of the trash. I don’t even heal on bosses unless some DRG or BLM stands in the Dunce Circles. I just click Dosis over and over, and look! The tank is getting healed!
    I think you might have misread what they said
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