Glamours: Re-work the entire system.

[Siddiax]

Honestly i would like at least another couple of plates.. those would be very welcomed >_<

Having a few for the Crafter/Gatherer jobs would be great as well.

[Shikiseki]

+1 support after seeing the recent new gear designs again...

There are more healers than White Mage that do not fit the classical dress robe look and more casters that also do not fit the typical black mage robes...
Even within the role there's just so many restrictions, it has to go

"muh immersion" stopped being a valid reason the moment those costumes and bikinis were a thing just accept that fact...

At this point I'm convinced they can't lift the restrictions due to spaghetti code, yet again...

[DPZ2]

Considering the number of times they tell us some feature or another isn't technically possible due to the way the game is coded, only for them to add the feature later anyway, I have absolutely zero trust for it to be true in this instance.

Receipts, please. I expect at least three examples, because 'a number of times' doesn't mean a thing otherwise. You could have used "once or twice" or "I distinctly remember that one time when ...".

If you don't know what a receipt is, I mean "show me a feature that showed up that was previously decreed "technically not possible" in this game by the developers. And no, the minimal Hrothgar/Vierra headgear is "it will take a lot of time to do it", not "technically impossible". Adding housing units by increasing the number of wards was (and still is) a hardware purchase problem, not "technically impossible".

Most of the time SE says "we will look into it" and then you don't hear about it again.

[LittleArrow]

They know glamour has issues, and no, they've already stated repeatedly countless times in the past that a WoW style system is simply out of the question due to technical problems with how the game is coded and handles gear appearence. [SNIP].

Not to butcher your quote, but Yoshi has said this on almost everything he just doesn't want to sacrifice resources to do; housing, housing wards, glamour expansion, male viera, female hrothgar, viera / hrothgar hair, I think he said something similar about flying in 1.x areas... I could be wrong. Those are just a few that come to mind.

I'm not trying to nail Yoshi to the wall or anything, he's an extremely busy guy producing 2 MAJOR FF titles - really the only ones that are relevant present day. The man has a lot on his shoulders. However, trying to shutdown someone for pointing out a very obvious issue in the game as if it could never be done due to Yoshi saying it's too much work / bad code / game can't do it / etc, isn't true.

It is possible. They can do it, and we should absolutely keep asking for it. The latest comment I saw Yoshi saying on this was I think the last Q&A. Someone asked Yoshi about copying WoW's glamour dresser, and he painfully said something like it pains him to take that question, please don't ask it (jokingly); however, he knows the community wants it but it will take a lot of work.

Either way, just b/c Yoshi says something is impossible, doesn't mean it's impossible. I don't know if it sarcasm / joking / him suffering under the strain of his genius is lost in translation, but multiple times he has said this and literally the next patch he has done it.

[Rolder50]

Receipts, please. I expect at least three examples, because 'a number of times' doesn't mean a thing otherwise. You could have used "once or twice" or "I distinctly remember that one time when ...".

If you don't know what a receipt is, I mean "show me a feature that showed up that was previously decreed "technically not possible" in this game by the developers. And no, the minimal Hrothgar/Vierra headgear is "it will take a lot of time to do it", not "technically impossible". Adding housing units by increasing the number of wards was (and still is) a hardware purchase problem, not "technically impossible".

Most of the time SE says "we will look into it" and then you don't hear about it again.

The Good Memory plugin that was implemented after they said it was impossible to do.

The 6.0 queue issues that they blamed on people's network connections until someone on Reddit found the server was dropping the ball.

Everything to do with Hrothgar heads and ears. Good example of this when they released new hairstyles in 6.1 with no ears, modders fixed it in a couple hours of release easy, and now they ears are back in 6.2.

Whenever he's asked about latency issues when it comes to inputs on jobs like MCH it gets brushed off as a network problem and yet modders can fix it with ease.

[Deveryn]

Not to butcher your quote, but Yoshi has said this on almost everything he just doesn't want to sacrifice resources to do; housing, housing wards, glamour expansion, male viera, female hrothgar, viera / hrothgar hair, I think he said something similar about flying in 1.x areas... I could be wrong. Those are just a few that come to mind.

I'm not trying to nail Yoshi to the wall or anything, he's an extremely busy guy producing 2 MAJOR FF titles - really the only ones that are relevant present day. The man has a lot on his shoulders. However, trying to shutdown someone for pointing out a very obvious issue in the game as if it could never be done due to Yoshi saying it's too much work / bad code / game can't do it / etc, isn't true.

It is possible. They can do it, and we should absolutely keep asking for it. The latest comment I saw Yoshi saying on this was I think the last Q&A. Someone asked Yoshi about copying WoW's glamour dresser, and he painfully said something like it pains him to take that question, please don't ask it (jokingly); however, he knows the community wants it but it will take a lot of work.

Either way, just b/c Yoshi says something is impossible, doesn't mean it's impossible. I don't know if it sarcasm / joking / him suffering under the strain of his genius is lost in translation, but multiple times he has said this and literally the next patch he has done it.

If he just said yes to everything, he would definitely get himself fired or lose people on the team. Expectations need to be managed somehow. I think this is one of those cases where it's more accurate that it's not something they want to get into. Other stuff like hrothgar and viera is just going to take some time and they've been getting around to it. This is a potential revision to a core system in the game.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

Receipts, please. I expect at least three examples, because 'a number of times' doesn't mean a thing otherwise. You could have used "once or twice" or "I distinctly remember that one time when ...".

If you don't know what a receipt is, I mean "show me a feature that showed up that was previously decreed "technically not possible" in this game by the developers. And no, the minimal Hrothgar/Vierra headgear is "it will take a lot of time to do it", not "technically impossible". Adding housing units by increasing the number of wards was (and still is) a hardware purchase problem, not "technically impossible".

Most of the time SE says "we will look into it" and then you don't hear about it again.

Not the person you asked, but:

Minions, pets, and companions used to not be able to be out at the same time, this was changed in 4.X after we had been told for years it was impossible.

Glamour plates can now be changed in all sanctuaries, this was originally said to be impossible upon their implementation.

We can now have more than one aquarium per house; rather than the arbitrary limits they launched with, this too was said to be impossible.

Furniture limits per house size were raised in 4.X and this too was originally said to be impossible.

Searching for items via partial keywords on the marketboard was said to be impossible in 2.X and 3.0 as they were afraid too many people using partial search would crash the servers.

Item search, when originally requested was a feature that was said to be impossible, again because they feared too many people using it at once would crash the servers.

Adding extra currencies to the currency window was something that from the launch of 2.0 they stressed would be impossible to do, and yet look where we are.

Expanding our inventory was once said to be "impossible" as well and they've done it, twice.

I've been playing since beta, and there are so many things that they have claimed are/were impossible that they've since dialed back on and done that its almost comical. I've come to the realization that impossible is their key word for "we've looked into it and with our current scheduling and resources we literally can't do it." So the person you replied to is right. No one should ever take any of these claims seriously and we absolutely should not trust when something is said to be "impossible."

[DPZ2]

The Good Memory plugin that was implemented after they said it was impossible to do.

The developers didn't write the plugin, and it can't be used by anyone playing from a console.

The 6.0 queue issues that they blamed on people's network connections until someone on Reddit found the server was dropping the ball.

So, what was the 'impossible to do' bit? And what new feature did they come up with? This sounds like a bug fix, not a new feature.

Everything to do with Hrothgar heads and ears. Good example of this when they released new hairstyles in 6.1 with no ears, modders fixed it in a couple hours of release easy, and now they ears are back in 6.2.

Please present any quote that said ears were "impossible to do" for the new hairstyles. Modders can do all sorts of things on PCs that developers cannot do. Not so much on the PS4 though. Sounds more like a bug fix than a new feature.

Whenever he's asked about latency issues when it comes to inputs on jobs like MCH it gets brushed off as a network problem and yet modders can fix it with ease.

So, basically, you've listed a number of technical issues and exactly zero 'features' that were implemented. What modders can, or cannot, do has no bearing on the actual game code, written to run across multiple platforms.

[TheDustyOne]

The developers didn't write the plugin, and it can't be used by anyone playing from a console.

I think what they meant was that the developers initially said was such a thing was impossible (with modders then proving that it wasn't,) only for Square to eventually make their own native implementation. Console users now are able to have this same "impossible" thing of having a checkmark over a minion item.

[Raikai]

Not the person you asked, but:

Minions, pets, and companions used to not be able to be out at the same time, this was changed in 4.X after we had been told for years it was impossible.

Glamour plates can now be changed in all sanctuaries, this was originally said to be impossible upon their implementation.

We can now have more than one aquarium per house; rather than the arbitrary limits they launched with, this too was said to be impossible.

Furniture limits per house size were raised in 4.X and this too was originally said to be impossible.

Searching for items via partial keywords on the marketboard was said to be impossible in 2.X and 3.0 as they were afraid too many people using partial search would crash the servers.

Item search, when originally requested was a feature that was said to be impossible, again because they feared too many people using it at once would crash the servers.

Adding extra currencies to the currency window was something that from the launch of 2.0 they stressed would be impossible to do, and yet look where we are.

Expanding our inventory was once said to be "impossible" as well and they've done it, twice.

I've been playing since beta, and there are so many things that they have claimed are/were impossible that they've since dialed back on and done that its almost comical. I've come to the realization that impossible is their key word for "we've looked into it and with our current scheduling and resources we literally can't do it." So the person you replied to is right. No one should ever take any of these claims seriously and we absolutely should not trust when something is said to be "impossible."

This right here.

There are a number of posters on this forums that rebuke many suggestion threads, especially on glamour related threads by playing a complacent devil's advocate with reasons such as sphagetti code not allowing or pointing the obvious "X is like that because of technical reasons".

Like, hello? There's no such thing as code that can't be improved or rewritten. There's no developer mindset that is not prone to be changed. YP might say something and 1 year later change his mind, much like it happened before. I wouldn't even be surprised if in 7.0 they would think about a way to bring Kaiten back with a compromise that would appeal both the player desire for it and their design goals.