Can you please add a daily queue for Hidden Gorge/Rival Wings?

[BabaM]

Yeah, you CAN carry Frontlines. I won like 18 games 2 days ago in Onsal Hakair because I was carrying so well. But statistically, you're still playing a game with 3 teams and have a 2/3 chance of losing. Sometimes you just get the raw end of the deal in terms of teammate/spawn luck, ect and you're more likely to get a bad deal than not. At least with Rival Wings you can't blame a third spoiler team, its just two sides. An Aeon of Strife Style Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides even.

And the main thing is, if you want the mode to actually be active and have matches pop, you're gonna have to put it on a roulette. When Frontlines offer double the rewards to Rival Wings, no one is going to queue for Rival Wings. The mode will be dead within a few days of 6.2 launch.

[Geryth]

But statistically, you're still playing a game with 3 teams and have a 2/3 chance of losing...you're more likely to get a bad deal than not.

Not if you carry games.



I am 100% solo queue too.

[Ransu]

Not if you carry games.



I am 100% solo queue too.

What exactly are you carrying? You are under 50% win rate...lol

[Geryth]

What exactly are you carrying? You are under 50% win rate...lol

In a game with 3 teams you're very silly to think sub 50% means I'm not carrying my games. Maybe go back to middle school math?

[BabaM]

You're really telling people to go back to middle school when you've completely missed the entire point of this thread?

Fact: you are statistically more likely to lose than win. There are outliers, but I didn't say it was impossible to carry, in fact, as I said, I won 18 games in one day. Its possible. But the average result is more losses than wins.

Secondly, this is a thread about why Rival Wings should be on a queue, not so you can show off your frankly pathetic win rate.

[Geryth]

You're really telling people to go back to middle school when you've completely missed the entire point of this thread?

I was responding specifically to someone who said "all the other content in the game allows you to bypass the mediocrity. Just delete PVP." He was whining about having teammates who, by being mediocre, don't allow him to be an awesome elitist to win all the games and get all the prizes. He seems to have missed the point that all other FFXIV content is made for mediocrity to thrive.

Fact: you are statistically more likely to lose than win. There are outliers, but I didn't say it was impossible to carry, in fact, as I said, I won 18 games in one day. Its possible. But the average result is more losses than wins.

And I proved over 1,000 games sample size that you can significantly push those odds into your favor. I didn't share some pitiful 18 game sample size. Where did this "hurr durr 50%" threshold come from? In a 3 game mode you should have on average a 33% chance to win. If you play well you can overcome mediocrity and reap rewards in whatever form that means to you. Quicker mounts and titles (where only wins matter). More experience for leveling alt-jobs and getting malmstone rewards and more wolf marks (where second place matters too, which everyone is ignoring).

Edit: Wait, yes I do see that you first said "on average you're going to lose 2/3 of your games". Funny to see you move the goal post to "losing more than winning on average" after I proved you wrong with a significant sample size.

Secondly, this is a thread about why Rival Wings should be on a queue, not so you can show off your frankly pathetic win rate.

Someone came in here to say "delete PvP cause wah wah my teammates bad". I responded to that, with a side comment about Frontlines. You are actually the one who leaned into frontlines as a focus of discussion. And a 41+% first place rate over 1000+ games where the best most can hope for is hovering around 33%, where I'm only 1 out of 24 players on the team, is absolutely significant. It doesn't matter how you try to downplay or ignore it. I countered your opinion with proof, and all you have left is insults.

If you have skill, you will overcome teammates who bring you down, plain and simple.

[Knot_D]

But statistically, you're still playing a game with 3 teams and have a 2/3 chance of losing.

It depends of people either they have skill issue or not

[BabaM]

What is that picture supposed to prove? you have a close to 50% win rate on Rival Wings and a 62% lose rate in front lines. Like I said, 2/3 chances of losing. Thanks for the proof.