VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Caro178]

As much as not every base game hair or Modern Aesthetics is my style I am happy to see Viera get more choices with every major patch. I don't particularly care for this new male Viera hair on any race but someone might and it doesn't look poorly implemented or unnatural. The momentum has been consistent and with this being the third batch I see no reason they'll stop until Viera can wear all the unlockable and base game styles.

Hopefully with the Hroth ear problem being resolved they can now start to add more styles... of course I honestly think they would be better off not treating Hrothgars like a human headed race and focusing their attention on making every racial exclusive hair work on every face shape. Those hairs suit Hrothgars, Karen hair #5 never will whether it has ears or not.

[LuciaMirain]

"Issue is it felt like you were insinuating that that's what we do. Celebrate when they do a tiny thing."

Well, text is hard.

[Adamantini]

Viera ears bounce a bit when you run (not sure if this is true for all types), but that's pretty much it. Do Hroth ears move at all? Ear physics would be so cool. ._.

Not. As far as I know, Hrothgar's head doesn't have skeletons for the ears, which causes them to be treated as static things.

The Vieras, on the other hand, have these skeletons, which makes physics possible in them. It would even be possible to make moves with them in emotes, just like the miqo'tes have. But we're talking about SE, they're too lazy for that.

The solution would be to reshape the hrothgar's head so that their ears have these skeletons. But I've heard that this game has a limited number of skeletons per head, so I don't even know if that's possible.

[LuciaMirain]

It's okay, I understand. This thread is long and I'm sure there have been myriad discussions about what the devs have and haven't said. I wish I had the quotes for myself but it was all a while ago now. Basically they said male Viera were made without restrictions in mind and female Viera were adjusted as well. Thus far we've only had one hairstyle added to the game and a gender locked one at that. It does function on Viera, however. I read a few pages back that the new styles are flagged for all races but Viera but the files also don't seem to be complete and this second male ponytail wasn't in the files at all. They seem to be two different hair files (rewards from Island Sanctuary) so I would be surprised if they were also gender locked. Who knows tho, gamemakers are weird.

I remember it was said that male vieras where made differently and wouldnt have the same limitations as female vieras when it came to hairstyles. I however dont remember if it was in an interview or a LL. But I saw it in an official interview so not just burped out by some player saying it.

[Caro178]

I remember it was said that male vieras where made differently and wouldnt have the same limitations as female vieras when it came to hairstyles. I however dont remember if it was in an interview or a LL. But I saw it in an official interview so not just burped out by some player saying it.

Yeah, and with the addition that female Viera had been adjusted as well (which thus far holds true as they did get the Lyse hair on release - the very first hairstyle ever released to Viera at the same time as any other race). Sill, it wouldn't surprise me if something was lost in translation. At the time I definitely did not take it to mean male Viera would have no hairstyle limitations and clearly that's true because they were shipped with limited options just like the females. The fact that we haven't gotten a brand new hairstyle wearable by male characters since ShB makes it impossible to really know. If Viera get the new ponytails on release it's a pretty safe bet what they said meant that Viera would get newly patched in hairstyles at the same time as any other race. If not I have no idea what they were trying to communicate.

[HollowedDoll]

The solution would be to reshape the hrothgar's head so that their ears have these skeletons. But I've heard that this game has a limited number of skeletons per head, so I don't even know if that's possible.

You don't need to reshape anything, also every race has miqote ear bones it's part of the base skeleton, only elezen and lalafell use them though besides the obvious. I reckon it'd take an afternoon for a ystolha lofi chill asmr catgirl roleplayer to weight paint the ears, the bigger issue would be retroactively changing the animations to have motion which are probably just copied from roes for the majority of hrothgar anims.

[Adamantini]

You don't need to reshape anything, also every race has miqote ear bones it's part of the base skeleton, only elezen and lalafell use them though besides the obvious. I reckon it'd take an afternoon for a ystolha lofi chill asmr catgirl roleplayer to weight paint the ears, the bigger issue would be retroactively changing the animations to have motion which are probably just copied from roes for the majority of hrothgar anims.

Good to know that, I really don't know anything about 3D modeling and animations.

On the one hand, it's good, since, as I understand it, it won't take as much work as I imagined. On the other hand, it all depends on the S.E, so... well...

[SturmChurro]

And there is a new hairstyle for Viera

I do hope there is more than just that; something desirable. Otherwise I won't be using that. I like that more is still being made available. I haven't read through a lot of the threads since this morning, does the new hairstyle look to be made available for viera,?

[Silverbane]

And there is a new hairstyle for Viera

I have a fem Viera that might look good with the hairstyle shown on the male, so I hope it isn't locked to males or a single "gender fluid" style that changes depending on sex.

And I hope it doesn't come with that face. Yuck. Get that guy some dried pixie plums!

[Caro178]

The short style shown on the male is a style available to both genders so I expect it'll be available to female and male Viera. Here it is on a female Lalafell.



The braids, however, are exclusive to female characters.

In 6.1 two hairstyles were shown in the patch notes just like this but we ended up getting 6 (3 base game and 3 Modern Aesthetics) for both Viera genders.