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  1. #51
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    Kranel_San's Avatar
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    Krann Starwarden
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    The effort spent on new race development and graphical update could be redirected (After completion) to new customizations and better animations. So yes I agree
    Sadly, I think we might not see it until 8.0....
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  2. #52
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    I agree that Elezen are ugly AF. I don't care about the rest
    What? Noooooo!



    Cheers
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  3. #53
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The head can't just be made a different size for different faces (if it's even part of the face model) or the hairstyles wouldn't fit the bigger head properly. I'm pretty sure they don't stretch.
    It can easily be increased, you just scale up whatever bones the head is rigged to and if necessary scale up the bones for the hair as well. It's how XIV does all of it's different races (atleast female characters), they all just have midlander bodies with different bone scaling.
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  4. #54
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    Alystaziel Nightmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    What? Noooooo!
    It's okay; secretly, everyone is jealous of our long-necked beauty.
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  5. #55
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    Little Sprinkles
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    Every complaint is sort of an artistic approach found in many JRPG and specifically Final Fantasy titles. The small heads / long necks were meant to give the impression of length and height, think colossal titan from attack on titan. It's cliche found in many anime / japanese art, sort of like large eyes = youth, and smaller eyes = being older.

    Here's Elvaan, what they were based on from FFXI:

    Same characteristics, long necks, smaller heads - their run animation was very similar in that they almost tilted forward as if they were too top heavy due to how tall they are. I don't disagree with the criticism, but I just wanted to offer some background into possible design choices coming from XI and discussing these things with an artist.

    I agree though, I would really like to see all the races revamped a bit. There should be more faces / larger range for height / more tattoo / racial speciality (horns, ears, tails, etc) options in general. Here's hoping the future of XIV has tons of new character options, but will still retain it's racial specific charm <3
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  6. #56
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    Titania Chevalier
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsujin View Post
    Is it that they have small heads OR really broad shoulders? I've never thought the head was the problem, but I've also never looked too closely. It's a genuine question.

    Would Elezen players want their race re-touched? I imagine many have grown fond of their generally long proportions. Pointy faces and all. I dunno, they have their charm, but it's not for me to really opine. I wish we lived in a world where Square could add thicker thighs and butts without the usual crowd whining though. Look at those legs!
    I'd be pissed if they messed with Elezen proportions. They're tall, gangly, lanky, and you know what? That's why I play the race. I like that they got different proportions, I like the long neck, I like the head size. If SE went in and "fixed" the proportions then I'd probably quit the game because I do not want SE fucking with the design of my character that I've dumped thousands of hours into playing. It's fantasy race in a fantasy MMO called Final Fantasy XIV, let me play as this giraffe with uncanny proportions. I wish people would piss off and stop asking for Elezen to be Hyur with pointy ears because if I wanted my character to have Hyur proportions I'd play a fucking Hyur.

    Also, Tetsujin, thanks for asking the genuine question. A lot of people in this thread don't even play Elezen are going around blasting their design, nice to see someone asking if actual Elezen players would be cool with such a change.
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  7. #57
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beddict View Post
    A lot of people in this thread don't even play Elezen are going around blasting their design, nice to see someone asking if actual Elezen players would be cool with such a change.
    Well, one could presume that many of the people not playing elezen aren't playing it because they don't like the proportions/general design, and elezen players would be playing elezen because they are either okay with or like their current design. I don't know if people seriously think elezen would get a full on redesign, but, in my opinion, at the very least they could use some more faces, along with the texture upgrades.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 08-20-2022 at 10:17 AM.
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  8. #58
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsujin View Post
    Is it that they have small heads OR really broad shoulders? I've never thought the head was the problem, but I've also never looked too closely. It's a genuine question.

    Would Elezen players want their race re-touched? I imagine many have grown fond of their generally long proportions. Pointy faces and all. I dunno, they have their charm, but it's not for me to really opine. I wish we lived in a world where Square could add thicker thighs and butts without the usual crowd whining though. Look at those legs!
    I just want a shoulder slider. Other elezen players may have little issue with broad shoulders but I hate how I feel restricted to glamor that seems to shrink them. With a shoulder slider it is an option for people to opt out or opt in. Nothing else really bothers me about the race.

    And if we're really going to piss on the run cycle, most races' run cycle is bad if you really want to nitpick. LOOKING AT YOU AU RA MALE!
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  9. #59
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    Aldebaran Tauri
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    Hyperion
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    Their proportions are fine the way they are. It's what makes them different. The only thing I will say that needs changing is their animations. Their running animations are one of the worst in game.
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  10. #60
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    It's okay; secretly, everyone is jealous of our long-necked beauty.
    True. As long as i get whispers like this:



    I do not worry about "ugly" Elezen.



    Cheers
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