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  1. #91
    Player
    Alaray's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Vevri Arctyria
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I don't really think it'll have as much of an overall impact as people think it will, but it might end up with higher-tier queues popping more frequently if people have to play to keep their ranking.

    I'd still figure most of the complaints beforehand will stick around, as the majority of the complaints in relation to ranking/matchmaking are just the same from any matchmaking/team-based/pvp objective game on the market.

    Either way I kinda got it out of my system after the first season and then just started playing other PvP games to get that fix when I want it. So it's not really something that'll affect me one way or the other tbqh
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  2. #92
    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    750
    Character
    Staribbon Xu
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lacksz View Post
    It is effortless to climb to Crystal Rank, so you should not fear rank demotion. The system itself will help you to get to Crystal rank no matter how inexperienced/bad you are at PvP.
    If you reach Crystal rank and got demoted to Plat 5, you will still receive Crystal Rank rewards, the new system will count your highest rank & rating if you are grinding top 100 AFAIK.
    The point is that you don't need to worry about rank demotion.
    Again, if this was true, I'd be in Crystal rank.
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  3. #93
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Character
    Alijana Tumet
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    It took me almost 11 hours to go from gold to platinum, and I can very confidently say it was not a "me" problem.

    With nothing to curate players based on skill levels or performance, every match is just a coin flip you can push in your favor slightly by being good, but you only account for one fifth of your team at the end of the day.
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  4. #94
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    ThaCa's Avatar
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Demotion is a non-issue, especially with your highest rank being saved for season rewards.

    This will help a lot for Crystal games where you sometimes had a coinflip of which team has more 0 rating players dragging them down. It's a direct buff for the high ranks as they are less likely to get these dead weights in their team now.

    Crystal was already a meme rank in these first seasons, someone posted the open achievement data and the distribution was like 50% of people who had gotten past unranked were Crystal and all of the rest had about equal split. Only like the top 100 competition was somewhat decent. If you played a lot and weren't completely clueless, you would eventually hit a lucky streak and go up until eventually reaching Crystal. The main difference between the good players and grinders was how fast they reached it. A lot of high end players posted something like sub-40 to 50 something wins to Crystal while some late joiners had over 300 wins.

    Now the only questionable thing that remains is lack of decay, while the highest ever reached rating counting for finish is great to make people actually play on their main instead of shuffling around with alts to have safe spots in the board, it will remain to be seen if people are still just going to push the rank the first week or two and then go inactive.

    Hopefully they have enough incentives to remain active in the ranked ladder.
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    Last edited by ThaCa; 08-14-2022 at 09:19 PM.

  5. #95
    Player
    Nanne's Avatar
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    Character
    Piush Stumbleine
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    Now the only questionable thing that remains is lack of decay
    Decay is not enough to keep top 100 competitive. The only reason people stop at the ladder is because there is barely anyone playing the mode because PvP just isn't interesting for people You could pretty much add -1000 points for skipping a day and even that wouldn't help because there just aren't people coming from below crystal to contest the leaderboards. Decay would make the 100 people play not the 99,9% of the community that isn't even playing the mode
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  6. #96
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    ThaCa's Avatar
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Decay is not enough to keep top 100 competitive. The only reason people stop at the ladder is because there is barely anyone playing the mode because PvP just isn't interesting for people You could pretty much add -1000 points for skipping a day and even that wouldn't help because there just aren't people coming from below crystal to contest the leaderboards. Decay would make the 100 people play not the 99,9% of the community that isn't even playing the mode
    In that case they should keep adding in rewards until players can't ignore it. Just make them retroactively achievable in later seasons to encourage the top 100 fights and keep a close eye for wintrading.
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