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    WindyGamer's Avatar
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    Wrakwolf Bluemane
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    Island Sanctuaries - End Game Only

    How disappointing. I had assumed that they would be available at, oh say, 30 or 50. So I could take my friends who are new to the game and show them my IS. Or as an alternative activity for my 2 dozen alts. But no. The IS are locked behind a tall tall ladder of level 90 and Endwalker.

    All of my Alts are 50+ and about half have completed Heavenward. And my friend started more recently and of their half dozen alts they only have a couple beyond Heavensward and one at Endwalker. [x]

    So if you want a Garden Simulator or to build a settlement, try another game where you can do that from the beginning I guess.

    And do I hear that the Steps of Faith is going to be a solo duty? Hardly Epic. But I guess the warrior or light can take down a two story tall Vishap solo with no problems. But it's just not going to be as fun as it was with 7 other folks. My preference would have been to make it a 24 or 30 player event rather than a solo one.

    I play another game where I just did an epic event with 50 or 60 other folks that was originally released in 2015. They didn't solo duty that epic event and despite the fact that there were no Flying Mounts in the game in 2015, the event was still fun and relevant for players today most with flying mounts and some just gliding like back in the day. It's done several times a day, as are the other large map wide events from that expansion.

    Sure, we could have more glamour dresser slots or we could just make the dresser hold all the glamour in the game, for the whole account - all the alts could get any glamour seen by any alt. That would be another way to go. It's not a new idea.

    New jobs appear just a rung or two below the End Game. Why is this a thing? And why do Alts have to climb that ladder to unlock those jobs too? The next new jobs unlocks at level 90? or 80?

    How soon before we see that the ladder is just too high to put all the new content at the top and that it's not a service to new players to dumb down all the rungs along the way? Could we please find new ways to make previous [ I'm not saying old here] content relevant for all players rather than putting all relevant content at the end of a long long climb? Anybody else bored with running only level 50 four man dungeons for moogle tomes for moogle treasure events? I didn't even bother. Despite the cut scenes, an 8 player was more fun that these 4 player replacements. And they could have been 24 or 30 player just as easily. Why was that not a thing?

    Yep. More than one subject here. But they all seem related somehow.
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    Last edited by WindyGamer; 08-13-2022 at 07:54 PM. Reason: fix error

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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    for an island we get just like that without much story inbolved it sure is strange to be locked behind 6.0. if its the reason we get it they could just make something up
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    I mean there are many things in this game that are always locked behind the expansion it was introduced. (Including all the new raids) With Island Sanctuary it might simply be that the reason you get it only makes sense after you finished Endwalker. After all I doubt that you would just give a whole island to a new adventurer.

    I am also not sure if it was ever said that the visitors also have to be lvl 90. There is a high chance that you can only get one after finishing Endwalker but can show them to people much lower. Which might give them a good reason to continue playing so that they too can get their island.

    Steps of Faith was imo never a good instance. Making it solo means at least that people dont have to wait for other players and hope that these players stay. Also the few scenes we saw in the trailer looked awesome. Its not like the WoL was doing much against Vishap with other players either. This time at least the NPCs can help too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    for an island we get just like that without much story inbolved it sure is strange to be locked behind 6.0. if its the reason we get it they could just make something up
    IMO it makes perfectly sense that they would give something like that to the world savior. Maybe its even a present from Sharlayan or Thavnair. Places that we only saw in Endwalker.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 08-13-2022 at 07:49 PM.

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    Meluwen Nobu
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    As others already pointed out, there is a number of locked content, diadem/firmament being lv60 to unlock for example.

    It’s not a big deal.
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    I'm sorry but an activity that apparently is a full time sink, why would you want to do it on alts as well? Like, I'm sure that if you get at it you can spend 24/7 on it on a single character.
    Also 2 dozen alts and all around level 50?? Why not, you know, focus on one or a few and take them to endgame, instead of having 24 alts at lvl 50?
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    Piush Stumbleine
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    I think the bigger question is why your friends that just started the game are already playing alts? Also its easier to make older content take less players instead a whopping 30 because you will have to get new players through those points in the story even 10 years from now and someone playing off hours would literally just get stuck never getting an instance at that point
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    they could just say: 'oh look we have this island we need someone taking care of it.' or it could be as thank you for saving eorzea by destroying the ultima-weapon. i mean i dont really care since im already 90, just thought its a bit odd.
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    Maybe wait until we find out how and why we get our own private island first? I mean, it's one thing to reward the person who saved the planet, it's another to just hand an island over to some random greenhorn adventurer.
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    We don't know how or why we are getting the island, we might not know the people in the story till later in game. Island sanctuary seems another great reason for someone to just buy the game too. You get a lot for your money esp when it's on sale.

    You chose to have an ungodly amount of characters, that's on you. Most people stick to one or two. Why should they change the content to suit the tiny amount of people who decided its a good idea to have 24 characters? I have 5 and I thought I was crazy having that many. Difference is I have my main done and feel no need to have 5 islands running. Nor did I delay doing content on main for the sake of alts. It's casual content, you don't need it on every character. Jus play it on the one and enjoy it, why are you so bothered which character model you are operating at the time? They are all you.

    Also the old steps of faith atm sucks, I just had it in my roulette two days in a row. It is slow, if its all sprouts they don't know to use the weapon on the tower etc. That fight is NOT epic feeling at all. The solo instance they showed it looked far better. Having more npc's running around it actually feels more hectic.
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    There is a very generous amount of content available to people at low levels that didn't come out in those expansions, such as newer pvp areas, newer gold saucer activities, seasonal events, the firmament, blue mage and bard music. As people have explained, it might relate to the lore of the story, but we will have to find out.

    For events the scale you described, I would suggest fates such as Odin, Behemoth or Coeurlregina, alliance raids such as Crystal Tower or the Shadow of Mhach, fêtes in the firmament, or hunts (specifically, S ranks).
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