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    WindyGamer's Avatar
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    Island Sanctuaries - End Game Only

    How disappointing. I had assumed that they would be available at, oh say, 30 or 50. So I could take my friends who are new to the game and show them my IS. Or as an alternative activity for my 2 dozen alts. But no. The IS are locked behind a tall tall ladder of level 90 and Endwalker.

    All of my Alts are 50+ and about half have completed Heavenward. And my friend started more recently and of their half dozen alts they only have a couple beyond Heavensward and one at Endwalker. [x]

    So if you want a Garden Simulator or to build a settlement, try another game where you can do that from the beginning I guess.

    And do I hear that the Steps of Faith is going to be a solo duty? Hardly Epic. But I guess the warrior or light can take down a two story tall Vishap solo with no problems. But it's just not going to be as fun as it was with 7 other folks. My preference would have been to make it a 24 or 30 player event rather than a solo one.

    I play another game where I just did an epic event with 50 or 60 other folks that was originally released in 2015. They didn't solo duty that epic event and despite the fact that there were no Flying Mounts in the game in 2015, the event was still fun and relevant for players today most with flying mounts and some just gliding like back in the day. It's done several times a day, as are the other large map wide events from that expansion.

    Sure, we could have more glamour dresser slots or we could just make the dresser hold all the glamour in the game, for the whole account - all the alts could get any glamour seen by any alt. That would be another way to go. It's not a new idea.

    New jobs appear just a rung or two below the End Game. Why is this a thing? And why do Alts have to climb that ladder to unlock those jobs too? The next new jobs unlocks at level 90? or 80?

    How soon before we see that the ladder is just too high to put all the new content at the top and that it's not a service to new players to dumb down all the rungs along the way? Could we please find new ways to make previous [ I'm not saying old here] content relevant for all players rather than putting all relevant content at the end of a long long climb? Anybody else bored with running only level 50 four man dungeons for moogle tomes for moogle treasure events? I didn't even bother. Despite the cut scenes, an 8 player was more fun that these 4 player replacements. And they could have been 24 or 30 player just as easily. Why was that not a thing?

    Yep. More than one subject here. But they all seem related somehow.
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    Last edited by WindyGamer; 08-13-2022 at 07:54 PM. Reason: fix error

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    for an island we get just like that without much story inbolved it sure is strange to be locked behind 6.0. if its the reason we get it they could just make something up
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    I mean there are many things in this game that are always locked behind the expansion it was introduced. (Including all the new raids) With Island Sanctuary it might simply be that the reason you get it only makes sense after you finished Endwalker. After all I doubt that you would just give a whole island to a new adventurer.

    I am also not sure if it was ever said that the visitors also have to be lvl 90. There is a high chance that you can only get one after finishing Endwalker but can show them to people much lower. Which might give them a good reason to continue playing so that they too can get their island.

    Steps of Faith was imo never a good instance. Making it solo means at least that people dont have to wait for other players and hope that these players stay. Also the few scenes we saw in the trailer looked awesome. Its not like the WoL was doing much against Vishap with other players either. This time at least the NPCs can help too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    for an island we get just like that without much story inbolved it sure is strange to be locked behind 6.0. if its the reason we get it they could just make something up
    IMO it makes perfectly sense that they would give something like that to the world savior. Maybe its even a present from Sharlayan or Thavnair. Places that we only saw in Endwalker.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 08-13-2022 at 07:49 PM.

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    As others already pointed out, there is a number of locked content, diadem/firmament being lv60 to unlock for example.

    It’s not a big deal.
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    I'm sorry but an activity that apparently is a full time sink, why would you want to do it on alts as well? Like, I'm sure that if you get at it you can spend 24/7 on it on a single character.
    Also 2 dozen alts and all around level 50?? Why not, you know, focus on one or a few and take them to endgame, instead of having 24 alts at lvl 50?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    I'm sorry but an activity that apparently is a full time sink, why would you want to do it on alts as well? Like, I'm sure that if you get at it you can spend 24/7 on it on a single character.
    Also 2 dozen alts and all around level 50?? Why not, you know, focus on one or a few and take them to endgame, instead of having 24 alts at lvl 50?
    My alts are all level 90 endgame and they'll all get their island now it will depend how much I like it which will determine how much time I'll spend on it. Personally if relic proves to be a big disappointment for me given we aren't getting new relic zones and maybe just running old content my time sink might end up being Sanctuary and not relic. I lived in Eureka and Bozja cause I found it fun.

    i too think level 90 is a bit of a surprise.

    Edit: I've seen a reward list (not official one) and it's pretty massive and I suspect those will not be something you can earn easily. I just hope they're not lockbox rng related like relic and bunny fates. They seem to be purchasable with Island currency so that might be a plus to grinding them.

    Quote Originally Posted by WindyGamer View Post
    Did someone mention that it should be the thing, or an option, to share the island with all the Alts on the account? Rather than having a separate Island, and Island progression for each Alt?
    I doubt alts can share. I suspect it's going to be friend related with a personal invite mechanic and for those of us with alts we know how that goes. I can share my house with friends but not my own account which is why some of us have chosen FC's over personal residences. Love to be personally surprised.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 08-13-2022 at 09:30 PM.

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    I think the bigger question is why your friends that just started the game are already playing alts? Also its easier to make older content take less players instead a whopping 30 because you will have to get new players through those points in the story even 10 years from now and someone playing off hours would literally just get stuck never getting an instance at that point
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    they could just say: 'oh look we have this island we need someone taking care of it.' or it could be as thank you for saving eorzea by destroying the ultima-weapon. i mean i dont really care since im already 90, just thought its a bit odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    they could just say: 'oh look we have this island we need someone taking care of it.' or it could be as thank you for saving eorzea by destroying the ultima-weapon. i mean i dont really care since im already 90, just thought its a bit odd.
    Considering I just saved everything in existence I should be given my own country. But I'll settle for a island.
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    Maybe wait until we find out how and why we get our own private island first? I mean, it's one thing to reward the person who saved the planet, it's another to just hand an island over to some random greenhorn adventurer.
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