Do we really need two healers per alliance in 24 mans?

[vetch]

Nice indirect nerf to healers, at that point why not just remove them?

There exists an argument that healing needs to be simple because if healers lose focus and die to mechanics, the group is doomed. One of the reasons YoshiP balked at adding more difficult 4-man content for so long is related to this, as well. But if all players can use a combat rez then this argument for keeping healers (and 4-man combat in general) easy and unchallenging is undermined.

Also it would feel good for the DPS/tank players who actually like support elements in their gameplay. Also also, it would make the game feel more like a Final Fantasy game.

[Liam_Harper]

Nice indirect nerf to healers, at that point why not just remove them?

Rezbots who mop up mistakes shouldn't be our identity.

[Mortex]

It is necessary. If you remove that extra healer then that one healer per alliance would have the highest responsibility out of the entire party which is not good for new players. 2 healers makes it new player friendly. Alliance raid roulette is always asking for DPS anyway so 24 mans are fine as is.

Actual responsibility in final fantasy xiv ? Get out with that, we can’t expect the crayon eater too adapt to that. God I miss a boss like hashmal that stomps the raid in the ground.

Every content except ultimate and savage is just so super boring it’s insane.

[Supersnow845]

Actual responsibility in final fantasy xiv ? Get out with that, we can’t expect the crayon eater too adapt to that. God I miss a boss like hashmal that stomps the raid in the ground.

Every content except ultimate and savage is just so super boring it’s insane.

We can zero GCD heal savage, hell P1 is an absolute joke, savage barely even deserves the title now, considering all the casuals on the forums are so hell bent on saying “just go do hardcore content” we sure do have almost nothing to actually do

[Mortex]

We can zero GCD heal savage, hell P1 is an absolute joke, savage barely even deserves the title now, considering all the casuals on the forums are so hell bent on saying “just go do hardcore content” we sure do have almost nothing to actually do

The 2 hardcore fights we have in a sea of mediocre boss difficulty. It’s jus a sad picture.

[Supersnow845]

The 2 hardcore fights we have in a sea of mediocre boss difficulty. It’s jus a sad picture.

Honestly (and the OF’s can ridicule me for this I don’t really mind) I’m on my last legs with this game, I’ve played for years and watched the volume of content that’s directed at me get paired down further and further with each expansion, whether it be cut content, cut difficulty, changed job design or everything else the game is truly not going in the direction I want it to

Sure I’m one person and square has obviously found a strategy that works for the longevity of the game but it’s certainly a direction I don’t like and I’m getting really tired of it, 1 forgettable extreme per patch, a savage tier that may have 1 standout fight out of the 4 every 2nd patch (12 eden fights gave us what shiva and edens promise as the only actual amazing fights) and ultimates which I we are lucky to get one per expansion.

The content just isn’t there anymore and I can’t keep hiding my growing disdain behind “oh let’s go do aglaia again I’m sure that’ll make me feel better”

[Nizzi]

Honestly (and the OF’s can ridicule me for this I don’t really mind) I’m on my last legs with this game, I’ve played for years and watched the volume of content that’s directed at me get paired down further and further with each expansion, whether it be cut content, cut difficulty, changed job design or everything else the game is truly not going in the direction I want it to

Sure I’m one person and square has obviously found a strategy that works for the longevity of the game but it’s certainly a direction I don’t like and I’m getting really tired of it, 1 forgettable extreme per patch, a savage tier that may have 1 standout fight out of the 4 every 2nd patch (12 eden fights gave us what shiva and edens promise as the only actual amazing fights) and ultimates which I we are lucky to get one per expansion.

The content just isn’t there anymore and I can’t keep hiding my growing disdain behind “oh let’s go do aglaia again I’m sure that’ll make me feel better”

I've basically accepted that this game isn't for me and the developers are openly telling players like me "Hey, we don't want you here, love it or leave it" and my decision is going to be "leave it" when I'm done. I know the new tier is coming out, don't really give a shit at this point. It's going to be the same old same old, and I'm sure P5S will be on the same difficulty of E5S and then everyone will say "LOOK YOSHI WAS RIGHT THEY INCREASED HEALING REQUIREMENTS SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP STOP COMPLAINING GO BACK TO WOW DOOMSAYERS THE GAME IS GOOD YOU'RE THE MINORITY TOXIC ELITIST RAIDERS" etc etc. I feel like there's legitimately no point even bothering posting on these forums really anymore either. I've lost my motivation to even really care about the game anymore, I don't participate in online discussions anymore, I don't read about it anymore, I simply just don't care. I'm apathetic. I enjoy the game as a vehicle to spend time with friends, but beyond that I no longer have any passion for it and doubt I ever will again. They've burnt through pretty much all of my goodwill, as dramatic as that is to say.

[Semirhage]

I have a group of friends I play with and I swapped to DPS. That's pretty much what keeps me around. That and making fun of this game's horrible playerbase on the forums. There is *never* a low in engagement or difficulty for which you won't find a thread on the general forums raging that it's "too hard", with an alarming amount of likes.

The GCBTW meme is real, and there's a significant portion of this game's playerbase that not only wants to watch a movie that plays itself for them, but expects a shower of accolades telling them what skilled players they are for it.

[AmiableApkallu]

Honestly (and the OF’s can ridicule me for this I don’t really mind) I’m on my last legs with this game, I’ve played for years and watched the volume of content that’s directed at me get paired down further and further with each expansion, whether it be cut content, cut difficulty, changed job design or everything else the game is truly not going in the direction I want it to

So, honest question: How much of what you feel might be characterized as "the game's difficulty/skill level increases more slowly than my own experience/skill level rises to meet it" vs. "the game's difficulty is remaining the same or actually decreasing over time"? My own limited experience (~1 year) places me in the former camp, so it's interesting to me if it's actually the latter.

[Supersnow845]

So, honest question: How much of what you feel might be characterized as "the game's difficulty/skill level increases more slowly than my own experience/skill level rises to meet it" vs. "the game's difficulty is remaining the same or actually decreasing over time"? My own limited experience (~1 year) places me in the former camp, so it's interesting to me if it's actually the latter.

There is definitely an element of I’ve gotten better and so the game feels easier but the game has gotten demonstrably easier in the time I’ve been playing it (I’m a legacy player), for me the best class that we ever had in this game was HW SCH, that class was hard, rewarding and interesting and the raid tier it was part of was also challenging, unique, interesting and different. At the same time what people would call casual content was demonstrably more difficult, old Pharos Sirius, thordran ex basically being a third floor savage, old diadem. Sure a lot of this was clunky but it doesn’t mean that I didn’t appreciate the game actually used to challenge me

These days if I have problems with content I get told to go do savage, yeah savage, how many bosses have protean at this point, protean+Raidwide+tank buster has been the opening sequence for how long now, plus I have to do these terrible unimaginative bosses on the classes that barely hold a fraction of the difficulty they once did

Just overall nothing is close to the old difficulty it once had