Allowing Gear Change in Active Mode

[Firon]

Someone call the Waaaaambulance... And the Immersion Police.

First off the comparison between FFXI and FFXIV being used as a validation factor of a game mechanic (gear swapping) contradicts two things:

1) Pretty much the same ppl bitching that XIV shouldn't gear swap because XI did it as a "proven abuse of a game mechanic" are the same people bitching in other threads that the two games shouldn't be used as a comparison of the other because they're entirely different game (XI being a decade old with "horribly antiquated" design"). Hmm hypocritical much?

2) it's being stated that SE has "pretty much guaranteed Gear Swapping will NOT be in FFXIV". Umm nahh, youre "pretty much" all assuming that. We all know the thing about assumptions right? We should because I see plenty of posters on this forum berating other posters for simply assuming things. Funny that its the same names nearly every time too. Hmm hypocritical much... once again.

About FFXI Gear Swapping. Having played XI 7+ years, myself AND my many ls mates watched SE pump out Gear Swap armors, weapons, and accessories continuously. So if Gear Swapping was "the abuse of an unintended game mechanic" and it "ruined game immersion" and was "only supported by cultists epeen players" then why did SE continue to release and still do release pieces specifically implemented for gear swap? Because they were "worried about the playerbase backlash"? Really? The same company that banned millions of accounts over Salvage Dupes, which is also "abuse of a unintended game mechanic"? The same DevTeam that had little to no community presence nor did they care show they cared to have any?

There's a lot of melodramatic BS claims being made in this thread when it all really boils down to:

- Ppl hate Gear Swaps because they were either too lazy to devote the time to farming the pieces or were scared of them because they never really made it deep into End Game status.

I NEVER have EVER heard anyone bitch about Gear Swaps until I read this thread. This was really a surprise to me to see all you self proclaimed FFXI VETS bitching about Gear Swaps. In the ACTUAL FFXI End Game scene we didnt bitch about Gear Swaps. Why? Because we loved the fact that it was just one more visual piece of evidence that WE understood and devoted a great deal of time to fully understanding the game and its finer moments/concepts of play.

Of course those of you that oppose Gear Swaps are going to be butthurt at what I write. You're also going to lash out at me with unneeded animosity. But I could seriously care less. Its no more than what you deserve for camping this thread with absurd claims of the "right and wrong way" to develop games when the majority of you wouldnt be wasting your time in FFXIV if you were a game developer/producer, you would be working on your own projects in hopes of being "the next better than FFXIV/FFXI MMO".

Anyway have fun. Sorry to interrupt your drama llama parade. You may continue now :3

as someone stated Gear swapping was not intended in XI but since it went on so long with out them changing it, they based the game around it. This is has been said multiple times.

[Wynn]

2) it's being stated that SE has "pretty much guaranteed Gear Swapping will NOT be in FFXIV". Umm nahh, youre "pretty much" all assuming that. We all know the thing about assumptions right? We should because I see plenty of posters on this forum berating other posters for simply assuming things. Funny that its the same names nearly every time too. Hmm hypocritical much... once again.

No. You're wrong. It was implicitly stated. No, I am not going to search for a quote. You're just going to have to trust me on that one. And if you don't...well I don't care.


P.S. You have a bad attitude problem.

[Molly_Millions]

I'll just leave this here:

Spoke with Battle Master Matsui to get the lowdown on the whole gear swapping question that's got you all buzzin'. In regards to swapping gear while in battle, since changing certain gear while in battle will change your class in FFXIV, we're not planning to make it possible to swap gear in battle. This direction will not change in the future.

We are focusing instead on making adjustments with the battle-related fixes to ensure that you can battle to your utmost ability without having to rely on changing gear multiple times mid-fight.

[Wolfie]

Someone call the Waaaaambulance... And the Immersion Police.

First off the comparison between FFXI and FFXIV being used as a validation factor of a game mechanic (gear swapping) contradicts two things:

1) Pretty much the same ppl bitching that XIV shouldn't gear swap because XI did it as a "proven abuse of a game mechanic" are the same people bitching in other threads that the two games shouldn't be used as a comparison of the other because they're entirely different game (XI being a decade old with "horribly antiquated" design"). Hmm hypocritical much?

Nobody says this. What we say is that we shouldn't copy from FFXI to turn FFXIV into FFXI 2.0. But nobody in their right mind says "don't compare MMOs". Even if they did, then comparing the two is a valid thing to do because it lets you analyze what the impact of a game play change does on an MMO.

2) it's being stated that SE has "pretty much guaranteed Gear Swapping will NOT be in FFXIV". Umm nahh, youre "pretty much" all assuming that. We all know the thing about assumptions right? We should because I see plenty of posters on this forum berating other posters for simply assuming things. Funny that its the same names nearly every time too. Hmm hypocritical much... once again.

Maybe you should actually read the whole topic, because someone posted Bayohne's quote confirming that the devs don't want to implement this.

About FFXI Gear Swapping. Having played XI 7+ years, myself AND my many ls mates watched SE pump out Gear Swap armors, weapons, and accessories continuously. So if Gear Swapping was "the abuse of an unintended game mechanic" and it "ruined game immersion" and was "only supported by cultists epeen players" then why did SE continue to release and still do release pieces specifically implemented for gear swap? Because they were "worried about the playerbase backlash"? Really? The same company that banned millions of accounts over Salvage Dupes, which is also "abuse of a unintended game mechanic"? The same DevTeam that had little to no community presence nor did they care show they cared to have any?

Yes, actually. That is exactly why they didn't remove it.

And because it would require them to retroactively change gear and content design to have tiered gear and content, instead of everything being sidegrades.

There's a lot of melodramatic BS claims being made in this thread when it all really boils down to:

- Ppl hate Gear Swaps because they were either too lazy to devote the time to farming the pieces or were scared of them because they never really made it deep into End Game status.

Care to make some points that aren't ad hominem attacks?

I NEVER have EVER heard anyone bitch about Gear Swaps until I read this thread. This was really a surprise to me to see all you self proclaimed FFXI VETS bitching about Gear Swaps. In the ACTUAL FFXI End Game scene we didnt bitch about Gear Swaps. Why? Because we loved the fact that it was just one more visual piece of evidence that WE understood and devoted a great deal of time to fully understanding the game and its finer moments/concepts of play.

You're confusing something people did because they had to, with people liking it.

Of course those of you that oppose Gear Swaps are going to be butthurt at what I write. You're also going to lash out at me with unneeded animosity. But I could seriously care less. Its no more than what you deserve for camping this thread with absurd claims of the "right and wrong way" to develop games when the majority of you wouldnt be wasting your time in FFXIV if you were a game developer/producer, you would be working on your own projects in hopes of being "the next better than FFXIV/FFXI MMO".

Anyway have fun. Sorry to interrupt your drama llama parade. You may continue now :3

Good way to cover your ass when you type up a post full of illogical arguments and ad hominem attacks. "yah, ur going to call me out on it but idc bcuz ur all jerks and that makes u wrong"

[syntaxlies]

Someone call the Waaaaambulance... And the Immersion Police.

First off the comparison between FFXI and FFXIV being used as a validation factor of a game mechanic (gear swapping) contradicts two things:

1) Pretty much the same ppl bitching that XIV shouldn't gear swap because XI did it as a "proven abuse of a game mechanic" are the same people bitching in other threads that the two games shouldn't be used as a comparison of the other because they're entirely different game (XI being a decade old with "horribly antiquated" design"). Hmm hypocritical much?

2) it's being stated that SE has "pretty much guaranteed Gear Swapping will NOT be in FFXIV". Umm nahh, youre "pretty much" all assuming that. We all know the thing about assumptions right? We should because I see plenty of posters on this forum berating other posters for simply assuming things. Funny that its the same names nearly every time too. Hmm hypocritical much... once again.

About FFXI Gear Swapping. Having played XI 7+ years, myself AND my many ls mates watched SE pump out Gear Swap armors, weapons, and accessories continuously. So if Gear Swapping was "the abuse of an unintended game mechanic" and it "ruined game immersion" and was "only supported by cultists epeen players" then why did SE continue to release and still do release pieces specifically implemented for gear swap? Because they were "worried about the playerbase backlash"? Really? The same company that banned millions of accounts over Salvage Dupes, which is also "abuse of a unintended game mechanic"? The same DevTeam that had little to no community presence nor did they care show they cared to have any?

There's a lot of melodramatic BS claims being made in this thread when it all really boils down to:

- Ppl hate Gear Swaps because they were either too lazy to devote the time to farming the pieces or were scared of them because they never really made it deep into End Game status.

I NEVER have EVER heard anyone bitch about Gear Swaps until I read this thread. This was really a surprise to me to see all you self proclaimed FFXI VETS bitching about Gear Swaps. In the ACTUAL FFXI End Game scene we didnt bitch about Gear Swaps. Why? Because we loved the fact that it was just one more visual piece of evidence that WE understood and devoted a great deal of time to fully understanding the game and its finer moments/concepts of play.

Of course those of you that oppose Gear Swaps are going to be butthurt at what I write. You're also going to lash out at me with unneeded animosity. But I could seriously care less. Its no more than what you deserve for camping this thread with absurd claims of the "right and wrong way" to develop games when the majority of you wouldnt be wasting your time in FFXIV if you were a game developer/producer, you would be working on your own projects in hopes of being "the next better than FFXIV/FFXI MMO".

Anyway have fun. Sorry to interrupt your drama llama parade. You may continue now :3

this person made me hate gear swaps more then i did before.