The feeling of beeing Home ...

[BaconBits]

Bring back some intensity of 'oh shit they might actually die'

Best I can do is a side character that got introduced in the same expansion.

Rip Ahewann lol, coulda saved you if SE had the budget to let us use attack animations in cutscenes instead of staring open-mouthed as you gave your last speech right before a Blasphemy gobbled you down like a quick meal.

[thegreatonemal]

Yes people died, but were any really that central to the plot or team? I barely remember, but here we are still talking about Harchefant and Monbryda. We are even still dealing with them even in 6.0, going so far as having a major moment of reconciliation with her parents in 6.0.

Can’t say the same about really anyone in 3/4.0

Who weren't very important to the central plot either. Granted she gave us the method we'd use to kill the ascians but that's it and the other was just a guy we did a favor for and he likes us for that. He doesn't appear all that much and he dies suddenly, which is why it was impactful.

[aveyond-dreams]

When anything else happens, people cry that it's a fakeout and it's cheap and they're pandering to the masses. Y'shtola gets wounded by Zenos and spends most of the expansion in recovery? Well, it's just a fakeout. Arenvald gets paralyzed? Well, they didn't kill him because they're pandering.

So basically people are gonna complain either way.

Yes. Having what looked like a death scene only to be brought back later is a fakeout. Y'shtola has had one per expansion. It has gotten tiresome. I agree that Arenvald shouldn't have been paralyzed. G'raha Tia should've died instead in 5.3 so he could take up the role of the party's second tank, and hopefully have some of that idealism of his dialed down by being humbled a bit over the course of the next expansion. We could've used the extra muscle more than yet another scholarly type.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Yes. Having what looked like a death scene only to be brought back later is a fakeout. Y'shtola has had one per expansion. It has gotten tiresome.

What exactly made it look like a death scene? Blood from the mouth? We saw that with Alisae fighting the Warriors of Darkness and she just got right back up. It's even shown in the very next cut scene that Krile started healing Y'shtola immediately (and will yell at the player, if they're a healer, to quit gawping and help).

Nothing about that made it look like she was actually gonna die. It was just a case of the Worf Effect, showing a character we know getting beat up to show off how powerful the new guy is.

[TMW001]

No one should have thought they'd kill off all the Scions at Thule would have been permanent especially since we still have Azem's gem on hand if we had lost it or it was destroyed (if we can even destroy those things) then I'd understand but I'm glad we aren't just killing MC left and right I've dropped series that's whole stick is who's gonna die this week for shock value.

[aveyond-dreams]

That still does nothing to justify the way this character has been used throughout this game's storyline, and at this point nothing done with her will allow me to take her seriously. Please get her out of my party in exchange for a better heroine.

[Nanne]

I still feel like home and EW for me has been the best expansion so far. PvP got worse though

[Raoabolic]

That still does nothing to justify the way this character has been used throughout this game's storyline, and at this point nothing done with her will allow me to take her seriously. Please get her out of my party in exchange for a better heroine.

*Removes Yeesh'toldya*
*puts Alisaie into the forefront*
:^)

[Aelin_Ashryver]

No one should have thought they'd kill off all the Scions at Thule would have been permanent especially since we still have Azem's gem on hand if we had lost it or it was destroyed (if we can even destroy those things) then I'd understand but I'm glad we aren't just killing MC left and right I've dropped series that's whole stick is who's gonna die this week for shock value.

It's not about wanting MC's killed off left and right for shock value. It's that you never ever feel any tension for these characters because they are unkillable. A lot of moments that would otherwise be nail biting or gut wrenching are just non impactful because you know they will be fine. In endwalker we are facing the biggest threat in the universe and came out without any casualties in our group, SOMEONE should have been lost like srsly. One person dying on the rare occasion would be enough to give that feeling of danger back.

You're just taking things to an extreme to be disingenuous.

[hagare]

*Removes Yeesh'toldya*
*puts Alisaie into the forefront*
:^)

doesn't matter who gets removed or added you all are still gonna complain anyways.