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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    Welp, this is definitely blowing up the GCBTW today. Which is a damn shame, really since it's literally just Eurogamer. You'd think Jesus himself (or any such similar prophetic figure, take your pick!) rose from the very dead to give FFXIV a stunning endorsement directly from the divine.

    So, the consensus is that because Eurogamer said it is so, it must therefore be so?

    Aaaaah, never change Forumites. Never change.
    Cool. Where is your proof to say otherwise if you are so aggressively against what was stated?

    I'll wait.
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    Babylooons Fall noooooo.
    All this is from Square themselves by the way, its publicly available (page 9).
    EW had the biggest media explosion on release, can't remember seeing something quite like it in a long while, of course they grew relative to last year.

    Big props to the mobile division, seems like it's doing all the heavy lifting despite falling a bit.
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    Numbers go up, yet dev time increases from 3 months to 4, housing still has a gridlock issue caused by hardware shortages irl, they can't even hire a damn live translator for live letters, and we get more frequent mogstation updates than content updates.
    14's successful numbers don't mean anything to the average player if that success is not reinvested back into the game.
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  4. #14
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    Still don't mind the increased dev time if it prevents crunch. Crunch is a deeply unhealthy thing and giving the devs more time to do their works is a small price to pay for content.
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    I'm too stupid to parse the financials at the moment, but how much of FFXIVs profits offset the cost? They made a lot of decisions like creating an OCE DC, and allocating more space for resources which would have been costly.

    Also sub counts only parked around the time the media swarm hit. Hard to say if its retention, bots cashing in on new blood, et al. Sub numbers are a poor figure for the health of a game for a reason as there will generally be more people who buy the game then spend less than the box price renewing thereafter. The money that matters to investors is box sales, not subs, and is usually the figure they report.
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  6. #16
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    Every game company sees a boost in sales when they release an expansion for an existing game, now you know why they hardly do any new games, because its safer to release expansions or sequels to existing franchises.
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    It took the grand sum of fewer than 4 posts for someone to go on the GCBTW conspiracy munition parade... Yikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikatis View Post
    Still don't mind the increased dev time if it prevents crunch. Crunch is a deeply unhealthy thing and giving the devs more time to do their works is a small price to pay for content.
    I'd rather have the best of both worlds. There's ways to prevent or at least mitigate crunch periods without steadily increasing the amount of time it takes to get new content in a game that is already a decade old and yet has not exactly bent over backwards in order to expand the size of its development team.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    It took the grand sum of fewer than 4 posts for someone to go on the GCBTW conspiracy munition parade... Yikes.
    Not much of a 'conspiracy' when the opening post is derogatory and dismissive of absolutely any criticism towards the game whatsoever.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'd rather have the best of both worlds. There's ways to prevent or at least mitigate crunch periods without steadily increasing the amount of time it takes to get new content in a game that is already a decade old and yet has not exactly bent over backwards in order to expand the size of its development team.



    Not much of a 'conspiracy' when the opening post is derogatory and dismissive of absolutely any criticism towards the game whatsoever.
    Oh, spare the victim complex. Stating that people can be and are prophets of doom is maybe slightly inflammatory, but beyond that, it is hardly a dismissal of any criticism, but hey, you do you. Nor does it constitute as 'blowing up'
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Oh spare the victim complex. Stating that people can be and are prophets of doom is maybe slightly inflammatory, but beyond that, it is hardly a dismissal of any criticism, but hey, you do you.
    It's not a 'victim complex'. It's an acknowledgement that the thread was not made in good faith and with the intention of a meaningful, civilised discussion. With that in mind, it strikes me as strange to accuse the subsequent posts of not being productive. I also don't doubt for a second that if the thread was making commentary at the expense of alleged 'white knights' then certain posters would be rushing to call it out.
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