Maggie in Praetorium

[SannaR]

You do still get more Maggie in the Jessie unknowingly scolds the WoL and Cid for running her ragged side story where you gain the ability to shoot blanks with her.

They shaved off at least ten minutes from Praetorium. It runs closer at least when ran with duty support to what old Castrum did if you had a zippy group. So somewhere around 30-35 mins. New Castrum is around your average dungeon with duty support. I don't feel like they needed to strip that one down as much as they did.

[DPZ2]

New Castrum is around your average dungeon with duty support. I don't feel like they needed to strip that one down as much as they did.

Consider that they went from 'pull everything wall-to-wall" for an 8 person instance to "you can still pull things, but there are way fewer of them, since you're now in a party of, y'know, 4 players".

[Denishia]

The silent goodbye to Maggie after overloading to blow open the door was the only cutscene that had a beat added to it instead of cut or left as was with a slight adjustment to dynamic camera movement, a longer emphasis on the WoL's sad and grateful face for Maggie's sacrifice and so the Ironworks logo is seen even with the previous cutscene cut to be a voiceover from Cid.

[george357]

i have done the new praetorium and have not noticed this but their is a moment where the character bows his head in respect for his old friend.

[Payadopa]

Tbf I find it extremely silly when characters become affectionate toward a machine. The less I see of that the better, honestly. I could not care less if that thing melted in front of me beeping.

[Dikatis]

Tbf I find it extremely silly when characters become affectionate toward a machine. The less I see of that the better, honestly. I could not care less if that thing melted in front of me beeping.

I mean, Maggie has a soul. We gave her a mammet's heart, which means she has a personality and is thus a form of forgekin. She's excited to see is, is given sapience by an act of altruism jolting her emotions awake, and rushes to save us from the exploding Praetorium even when she should have been fried by her last attack.

By all accounts, she's a friend akin to a loyal dog or horse. I'm honestly kind of disappointed that she disappears from the story after the Praetorium.

[RyuDragnier]

I mean, Maggie has a soul. We gave her a mammet's heart, which means she has a personality and is thus a form of forgekin. She's excited to see is, is given sapience by an act of altruism jolting her emotions awake, and rushes to save us from the exploding Praetorium even when she should have been fried by her last attack.

By all accounts, she's a friend akin to a loyal dog or horse. I'm honestly kind of disappointed that she disappears from the story after the Praetorium.

Tbh I really feel like everything with Maggie could have been cut from the MSQ and we'd have lost nothing in terms of lore or character. That's how little Maggie mattered in the MSQ, and why I even questioned why it was there in Prae, outside of a convenient excuse for Deus Ex Machina "save us from dying in fiery explosion".

[Cilia]

Tbh I really feel like everything with Maggie could have been cut from the MSQ and we'd have lost nothing in terms of lore or character. That's how little Maggie mattered in the MSQ, and why I even questioned why it was there in Prae, outside of a convenient excuse for Deus Ex Machina "save us from dying in fiery explosion".

Rampaging through the Praetorium in magitek armor is awesome, that's why!

... or it was, like everything in the Praetorium, if you got to play it when it was brand new (i.e. before everyone sprinted through while skipping the cutscenes before they made them unskippable). I started playing only a couple months after ARR launched and that was already the SOP with those two dungeons though, so... yeah.

[Tlamila]

Tbh I really feel like everything with Maggie could have been cut from the MSQ and we'd have lost nothing in terms of lore or character. That's how little Maggie mattered in the MSQ, and why I even questioned why it was there in Prae, outside of a convenient excuse for Deus Ex Machina "save us from dying in fiery explosion".

Well that's mostly just you not caring about a character. I personally feel like Emet-Selch could have been cut out and we'd have lost nothing, but I'm sure almost everybody disagrees with me. Same as most people will disagree with you about Maggie.

[SannaR]

Sure you could have changed the part before Praetorium and thus Maggie's parts of Praetorium to not need to play Garlean soldier dress up. But a lot of people I think wanted to run around with one. Remember Maggie is only sentient due to a mammet's core. Also need something big enough for the WoL to carry them and an unconscious Thancred out of an exploding Praetorium. That would even work for a Lalafell. As not everyone would have a Draft Chocobo.