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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Its perfect for beach wear, and as we Aussies are headed into spring soon.....nothing disappointing at all.
    Saw my first blossoms today walking down to the woolies. Yesterday they were not there, so they'e popped open overnight. A few more days, I guess, and it should be fully out!

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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaquan View Post
    It really implies that all the previous Moonfires came with Bikinis which is weird considering that for last 4 years only one did.
    "Once in the last four years" doesn't count when two of the last four years didn't have any kind of glamour legwear.

    The issue isn't objectively how many bikinis exist as glamour, but how many times when there is beach glamour it is assigned along fixed gender roles – and for that matter, the same logic being applied to other equipment.

    In fact, on further thought they used to be more equal about it, and both genders got equally skimpy beach outfits – and now the male outfits have turned more comfy and covered-looking and the female version hasn't changed in the same way.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 08-04-2022 at 06:33 PM.

  3. #173
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    God. This is like the "you know healthcare isn't free right?" argument xD
    I'm paying 50% income tax for mine, of course it's not free.
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  4. #174
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    Clover Blake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The issue isn't objectively how many bikinis exist as glamour, but how many times when there is beach glamour it is assigned along fixed gender roles – and for that matter, the same logic being applied to other equipment.
    Could it be because the majority of people like it that way?
    I for one don't care about the male long trousers, and very much prefer being given a cute bikini for my female characters. I have the feeling it's just a noisy minority complaining and dictating how everyone else should feel.

    I'm sorry if anyone personally doesn't like the glamour for any reason, but it's impossible for something to be liked by everyone. I certainly don't throw a fit whenever they release glamours I don't like for my characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    I'm paying 50% income tax for mine, of course it's not free.
    It’s quite funny how people think most European and Scandinavian countries has free health and dental care. No it’s not free cause I’m paying taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    It’s quite funny how people think most European and Scandinavian countries has free health and dental care. No it’s not free cause I’m paying taxes.
    And when I tell them how much we're paying in taxes, their suggestion is "JuSt TaX CoPoRaTiOnS". We have a lower corporate tax rate than the US iirc. If the people want something the people should have to pay for it.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    Could it be because the majority of people like it that way?
    I for one don't care about the male long trousers, and very much prefer being given a cute bikini for my female characters. I have the feeling it's just a noisy minority complaining and dictating how everyone else should feel.

    I'm sorry if anyone personally doesn't like the glamour for any reason, but it's impossible for something to be liked by everyone. I certainly don't throw a fit whenever they release glamours I don't like for my characters.
    The frustration comes from the fact that in some areas, they are recognising that people want to access "the other gender's" outfit style, and putting work into making those designs equippable by everyone.

    And then we get this new glamour where they only put out one single item that drastically changes according to gender, when all they need is to give us separate "beach shorts" and "beach briefs" items so everyone can choose. You can have your bikini, and my character can have cute summery patterned shorts, and the person who wants their male character wearing speedos can have that too.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The frustration comes from the fact that in some areas, they are recognising that people want to access "the other gender's" outfit style, and putting work into making those designs equippable by everyone.

    And then we get this new glamour where they only put out one single item that drastically changes according to gender, when all they need is to give us separate "beach shorts" and "beach briefs" items so everyone can choose. You can have your bikini, and my character can have cute summery patterned shorts, and the person who wants their male character wearing speedos can have that too.
    But that would equal to making 4 glamours instead of 2. It's double work and double effort. We can't ask for such a thing so lightly as if it were nothing.

    When you can only make 2, it's only normal they'll try to make the two that most people might want to see.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    It’s quite funny how people think most European and Scandinavian countries has free health and dental care. No it’s not free cause I’m paying taxes.
    I'll remember that when I'm looking at my next doctor's bill, despite also paying taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    It’s quite funny how people think most European and Scandinavian countries has free health and dental care. No it’s not free cause I’m paying taxes.
    and everyone knows that. Or would you prefer medical bankruptcy?
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