New Moonfire Faire disappointing glamour

[fmonkey13]

Some variety would be nice. Give us a one piece sometime and boyshort bottoms would be nice as well. But gives a shawl less version also. And give the boys a buttoned up variant of the top as well.

But my only true request is give us dye able versions of all the old stuff.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Gender restrictions have nothing to do with a fantasy game. If anything, a fantasy game should be totally free of any sort of gender restriction.

Has it ever occurred to you that those people aren't trying to impose their sexual orientation on you while you're trying to impose yours on them? Obviously not.

You are the selfish one, not them. You're trying to force them into your mold. They're just trying to live their lives as the people they are.

What someone's sexual orientation is shouldn't matter to anyone not involved in a romantic relationship with that individual.

Guess what? "Normal" is a concept created by control freaks to try to control what others can be. The truth is that being different is what is normal. No two people are like, except sometimes identical twins.

We need to stop pushing people into hiding because they don't fit what some control freaks want others to be. It's time to embrace diversity instead of limit it.

I mean even this logic isn't solid because one could argue that their idea of a fantasy has traditional gender roles. What constitutes a fantasy will vary by the person.

It's certinaly not true that those folks aren't trying to impose their orientation. Many are, many aren't. I agree someone's orientation shouldn't matter to anyone but said persons partner...but I say tell that to the folks in game and on Twitter who feel the need to make it known that they are gay/lesbian etc.

Lastly you can't exactly reem folks for pushing their ideals...while then saying things such as "it's time to embrace diversity instead of limit it". Just seems like 2 sides of the same coin really

[Neoyoshi]

"Every time a _____ gets _____ a miqo'te dies, please, let's think about the miqo'tes."

I had a snarky fill-in-the-blanks thought, sorry. xD

[Aneshda]

Gender restrictions have nothing to do with a fantasy game. If anything, a fantasy game should be totally free of any sort of gender restriction.

Has it ever occurred to you that those people aren't trying to impose their sexual orientation on you while you're trying to impose yours on them? Obviously not.

You are the selfish one, not them. You're trying to force them into your mold. They're just trying to live their lives as the people they are.

What someone's sexual orientation is shouldn't matter to anyone not involved in a romantic relationship with that individual.

Guess what? "Normal" is a concept created by control freaks to try to control what others can be. The truth is that being different is what is normal. No two people are like, except sometimes identical twins.

We need to stop pushing people into hiding because they don't fit what some control freaks want others to be. It's time to embrace diversity instead of limit it.

No we are not selfish.
This Game is made for 12+ years old.
What should children think, when they see a male Charakter with Fishnet Stockings, Tangas or other skimpy ugly Glamours?
Must we force sexual orientations on children in a fantasy online game?
Why can't that be keept out of a Game?
We who dress normal are the normal ones. I can be in real live gay / lesbian / diverse / hetero whatever but I must not bring it into a Game.
Be whatever you want to be but leave it in your real live.
We don't want to see all that and there is nothing wrong with it.

[DixieBellOCE]

It's not free, Its part of the content that my sub pays for.
Are you the type of person who thought those infomercials were really giving you one item free instead of charging you for two items and just saying one was free?

Alright they can put it on the mogsatation and you get nothing in-game then, your sub still pays for access to the game, not the content they give out for free.

[DixieBellOCE]

No we are not selfish.
This Game is made for 12+ years old.
What should children think, when they see a male Charakter with Fishnet Stockings, Tangas or other skimpy ugly Glamours?
Must we force sexual orientations on children in a fantasy online game?
Why can't that be keept out of a Game?
We who dress normal are the normal ones. I can be in real live gay / lesbian / diverse / hetero whatever but I must not bring it into a Game.
Be whatever you want to be but leave it in your real live.
We don't want to see all that and there is nothing wrong with it.

The game is actually rated 16+ in some countries.

But i do agree, take sexual orientations back to the real world where they belong.
Not all fantasy games have to be tailored to every single minority audience.

[DixieBellOCE]

Really? I thought "bitching about glam" was pretty much the Free Space in the middle.

Can't say I expected the rest of the thread, though.

forgot to add 'bitching about a FREE outfit'.

Square enix does not have to give us this, it could have just gone in the mogstation.

People complain over nothing.

[Iscah]

I have no depth perception. I do not have binocular vision either. I can't judge distances.

Looks like no new shiny glam for me then.

The "required portion" of the previous tower didn't really need depth perception – this game is pretty rubbish on that front for everyone anyway.

It was much better to view the tower side-on and do the whole thing as if it were a 2D platformer game.

From memory there was one spot with a narrow plank where it was better to swing the camera behind you so you could land on it, but was more about jump angle than distance.

The other option is to go as BLU with Selfdestruct and find someone to revive you over the tricky bits.

[Krotoan]

No we are not selfish.
This Game is made for 12+ years old.
What should children think, when they see a male Charakter with Fishnet Stockings, Tangas or other skimpy ugly Glamours?

"that is a lot of skin showing"
"that looks silly"
"that looks impractical for fighting"
That's about it. Unless they're going through puberty most kids aren't considering something to be sexual.

Must we force sexual orientations on children in a fantasy online game?
Why can't that be keept out of a Game?

Yeah we shouldn't encourage ANY sexual orientations. Lets stop having any sort of romantic implications or ANY sort of fashion related to inspiring sexual desire of ANYONE! Lets get rid of the marriage system because that relates to sexual orientations! And young characters because that implies people are having hetero relations!

We who dress normal are the normal ones. I can be in real live gay / lesbian / diverse / hetero whatever but I must not bring it into a Game.
Be whatever you want to be but leave it in your real live.
We don't want to see all that and there is nothing wrong with it.

I cannot be whatever I want to be.. my options for badass/cute catgirl are severely limited in real life.







All that being said I'm going to join a lot in this thread and say I'm sad I will not be able to wear the shorts. They look shmancy and would be an awesome beachcombing/sunny glamour.

[Gemina]

Ok, this thread is NOT about me being mad over items not being accessible to both genders. I simply didn't like male shorts. That's literally it. Please stop throwing tantrums over pixels in a video game - it's never that deep.

The impression I got from your OP was that you weren't even really mad about the shorts either. You went on about variety, and the lack of it with the glamours in FFXIV. You also mentioned that females always seem to get the best stuff when it comes to glamour items. That was a "wahh" moment.

What is ironic is that you are telling those taking the time out of their day to contribute to your thread that they are throwing tantrums, when the tantrum started way back from the very first post made by you.

The other thing I will mention is of course glamour items seem to always look better on female avatars. They're females. Meanwhile, roughly 80% of all the battle related gear in this game looks WAY better on males, and crush my max slider boobs until they touch my back. Now, why do you suppose that is? Items that are tailored to be more light, elegant, bright, and non-practical are just going to look better on female avatars. Always. Items that are more utilitarian, practical, heavy, and protective are going to look better on males. The reason for this is called "gender norms". And as much as present day society has tried to push that these are social constructs, they couldn't be more wrong. These fundamental truths are ingrained into us as a species. Trying to bend something in a way not intended will always resist. That is the natural order.

tl;dr. You want the Thavnairian dress to look good on you? Switch to a female avatar.