It's time to revaluate paper crown battlementors

[Chekopacheko]

I don't think the mentor system will change anytime soon, you know why? Because it actually works in Japan servers. So that raises the question, is the system really bad? or the NA community general behavior requires a change?

Again, Japan is doing good with the system, so it seems is an attitude problem from our side

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I don't think the mentor system will change anytime soon, you know why? Because it actually works in Japan servers. So that raises the question, is the system really bad? or the NA community general behavior requires a change?

Again, Japan is doing good with the system, so it seems is an attitude problem from our side

Imho cultural differences isn't something they took account when designing the whole system.

[hagare]

Imho cultural differences isn't something they took account when designing the whole system.

so trolling is an NA cuture eh xD

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

so trolling is an NA cuture eh xD

Maybe (not)? I never implied so specifically & I do not know the correct answer.

What I can notice from these mentor-related anecdotes is that JP folks tend to be more wary how their actions are taken or seen by their surrounding vs NA folks who tend to be more individualistic. Not saying either side is better than the other. It however makes me wonder if they're building this whole system under assumption that everybody (their model, aka JP folks) would (in general) behave accordingly. In a group of players who cares more how they're perceived, this system would've work just fine. But throw in folks who are individualistic (non-JP folks that does not fit their initial model) in nature: differing opinions can spark conflict more often compared to the former.

[VerdeLuck]

so trolling is an NA cuture eh xD

The culture in NA players isnt trolling, it's to take every possible shortcut to get to the reward they want. Greeding DPS, skipping mechanics, etc. For mentors this means trying to maximize the number of guildhests they get so they can get their mount and never run the roulette again. A lot of mentors will straight up leave any duty that takes longer than normal, and wait out the penalty to try for a guildhest since it's easier. You'd see it all the time in the old castrum and praetorium.

[hagare]

The culture in NA players isnt trolling, it's to take every possible shortcut to get to the reward they want. Greeding DPS, skipping mechanics, etc. For mentors this means trying to maximize the number of guildhests they get so they can get their mount and never run the roulette again. A lot of mentors will straight up leave any duty that takes longer than normal, and wait out the penalty to try for a guildhest since it's easier. You'd see it all the time in the old castrum and praetorium.

ah me me me culture

[TaleraRistain]

ah me me me culture

On the worst end maybe, but NA also doesn't have a general culture of 3 wipes and we just silently disband. On the better end, we'll stay together to get people through until the bitter end no matter how many wipes it takes. Like Reiner said, not necessarily better or worse. Just different and they may have only designed the system with one mentality in mind.

[hagare]

More like the sink or swim culture.

right, if you don't swim like I say, I'm sinking the ship xD

On the worst end maybe, but NA also doesn't have a general culture of 3 wipes and we just silently disband.

yeah they start pointing fingers and kick people THEN disband instead

[Raoabolic]

ah me me me culture

More like the sink or swim culture.