It's time to revaluate paper crown battlementors

[LeonKeyh]

getting rid of the mount for mentor roulette would be a good start or let it require 5000 commendations as well, would be a good start especially to put in an actual effort.

Commendations are literally just dependent on how long you've been playing the game. Play tank or healer and you'll get them in a decent enough rate. I've had people who proudly claimed that they've "Played since 2.X" or "Played since ARR Beta" or "Played since ARR Alpha" or "Played 1.X" or "Played this before it was actually an MMO" or somestuff and they were garbage players.

No checkboxes are going to be able to determine whether a person not only knows enough to answer questions but is someone who knows how to teach.

[AngelCheese77]

It took me years to become a battle mentor. I don’t do savage. And I help only after a wipe if ppl ask. I will never get the mount cause I don’t have the dungeons needed

[Catwho]

5000 comms as a requirement would leave extremely few people as mentors. I'd qualify, and a handful of other mentors I know that have been playing since 2.0 would, but it would immediately cut out a lot of helpful and kind people as well.

I've always been in favor of changing the crown to a watering can. I hide my crown anyway (doesn't stop me from helping people) and it'd be in the spirit of what a mentor is supposed to do, anyway.

Maybe change the watering can to a crown automatically once you hit 5000 coms and all 90s and clearing at least the first savage in a tier. Mentor status and roulette being available at the current requirements, but with the watering can icon, and then reserving the crown icon for the "super mentors" that actually hammer at the content.

[Chekopacheko]

I don't think the mentor system will change anytime soon, you know why? Because it actually works in Japan servers. So that raises the question, is the system really bad? or the NA community general behavior requires a change?

Again, Japan is doing good with the system, so it seems is an attitude problem from our side

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I don't think the mentor system will change anytime soon, you know why? Because it actually works in Japan servers. So that raises the question, is the system really bad? or the NA community general behavior requires a change?

Again, Japan is doing good with the system, so it seems is an attitude problem from our side

Imho cultural differences isn't something they took account when designing the whole system.

[ICountFrom0]

Crazy thing is, it does work in some servers in the US. Not all the time. If things go too well for too long one of the trolls will wander in and cause trouble....

... lets say it works as well as these forums, but a bit faster.

Imho cultural differences isn't something they took account when designing the whole system.

They don't even take it into account with the "rules clarification", there's places in the EU where the suggested lines are downright fighting words level of insult. They take "passive aggressive" as the direct threat it is.

[angienessyo]

5000 commendations would be completely unreasonable haha I've been playing since Heavensward almost exclusively as a dps main and I have a bit over 3000. I think I personally only know 1 person with close to 5k and they've been playing since ARR.

[Packetdancer]

Actually, I just had a thought: You could make the current Hall of the Novice series required before Sastasha. Then, add a second series, as part of the Crystal Braves story. "Test this new training hall and make sure it's up to scratch for our new recruits," or something. Party-based combat is a lot less abstract at Lv.50 than it is at Lv.16, so that hopefully puts trainings and tutorials in a better context.

I've mentioned this before, but one thing I really did think was neat about The Secret World (back in its original, pre-reboot incarnation) was that in order to get access to Nightmare content (TSW's equivalent of Savage) you needed to pass a test given by an NPC literally called the Gatekeeper. There was a test specific to tanks, a test specific to DPS, and a test specific to healers.

(As I recall, the healer test was basically the Gatekeeper creating a party of NPCs who were more or less the worst possible party. These idiots would constantly stand in the bad to greed, fail to do mechanics and take avoidable damage, etc., and you had to keep these suicidal lemmings alive while still doing a bit of damage because they weren't enough on their own to meet the DPS check of the test.)

While I don't think we need literal gatekeeping on access to content, I do think having a more advanced set of trials a'la the Gatekeeper's tests -- or even akin to the Masked Carnivale for BLU -- where you need to achieve certain things to clear... well, it would be a nice tool for folks to have, to let them work on things without the pressure of being in a party with actual PCs.

And you could definitely use it to cover a few things the game largely fails to mention, both mechanically (explaining why overhealing is a waste, showing that Arm's Length can be a mitigation CD in trash pulls, explaining where Addle/Feint/Reprisal are useful, etc.) and in terms of actual execution (like the fact that debuffs with a white bar at the top can be cleansed via Esuna).

[ICountFrom0]

you needed to pass a test given by an NPC literally called the Gatekeeper. There was a test specific to tanks, a test specific to DPS, and a test specific to healers.

(As I recall, the healer test was basically the Gatekeeper creating a party of NPCs who were more or less the worst possible party. These idiots would constantly stand in the bad to greed, fail to do mechanics and take avoidable damage, etc., and you had to keep these suicidal lemmings alive while still doing a bit of damage because they weren't enough on their own to meet the DPS check of the test.)
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See, if I could replace every single "completion required" in the party finder with a "gatekeeper required" I'd be happy (or have both, both is good).

[Deceptus]

I've mentioned this before, but one thing I really did think was neat about The Secret World (back in its original, pre-reboot incarnation) was that in order to get access to Nightmare content (TSW's equivalent of Savage) you needed to pass a test given by an NPC literally called the Gatekeeper. There was a test specific to tanks, a test specific to DPS, and a test specific to healers.

(As I recall, the healer test was basically the Gatekeeper creating a party of NPCs who were more or less the worst possible party. These idiots would constantly stand in the bad to greed, fail to do mechanics and take avoidable damage, etc., and you had to keep these suicidal lemmings alive while still doing a bit of damage because they weren't enough on their own to meet the DPS check of the test.)

While I don't think we need literal gatekeeping on access to content, I do think having a more advanced set of trials a'la the Gatekeeper's tests -- or even akin to the Masked Carnivale for BLU -- where you need to achieve certain things to clear... well, it would be a nice tool for folks to have, to let them work on things without the pressure of being in a party with actual PCs.

And you could definitely use it to cover a few things the game largely fails to mention, both mechanically (explaining why overhealing is a waste, showing that Arm's Length can be a mitigation CD in trash pulls, explaining where Addle/Feint/Reprisal are useful, etc.) and in terms of actual execution (like the fact that debuffs with a white bar at the top can be cleansed via Esuna).

At a basic level require a SSS dummy clear to be required for EX content. If you can't even pass the most minimum DPS check on a simulated EX boss you have no business being there.

It's not a perfect solution, but it's better than the nothing we currently have and it's also currently in game so might as well use it.