Hope you got a house this lottery otherwise you'll probably be waiting another 5years

[Padudu]

And I already told y'all, I ain't defending the system. I'm pointing you towards better arguments.

I think you may want to rephrase your argument if like for two pages, no one can figure out what the fuck you're actually arguing for and for what lol.

"Y'all are the ones misusing "demand" to only apply to the players that currently do not have houses, when the term is more correctly applied across the board."

Isn't this just common sense?

[Hasrat]

I think you may want to rephrase your argument if like for two pages, no one can figure out what the fuck you're actually arguing for and for what lol.

"Y'all are the ones misusing "demand" to only apply to the players that currently do not have houses, when the term is more correctly applied across the board."

Isn't this just common sense?

A simple example:

10,000 players per server want housing.

There are 7,200 houses available per server.

What is the total demand for housing?

[Reinha]

If 10000 players per server want housing, even 9999 houses isn't good enough. 10000 houses isn't good enough either if they keep allowing players to own multiple houses on one account. Simple as that.

[Sawamura]

To be honest all this cry about will never end also of course we will never get enough house. Answer is very simple to us is a game but to SE is business with cost vs benefit for company. People is already pay 14 per month for game content when they have house/not is not really big matter to SE cause that $14 is about probably less $1 to server rest to salary and company profit and rest of company cost. Let´s said about 300 people a single sever(not datacenter) is bidding a single house (300x14 sub=4200). At very sametime about 10-20% stop sub and more then +75% will remain to game. Also remember this game is old and upgrade cost money endwalker release was a good example with not enough server and create log in issue and take 2month to fix cause the cost vs long term benefit. So this house players base complained is simple not enough worth for the cost of new ward or server and maintainced in long term benefited.

Edit: forgot said there is servers to sell at endwalker release But price was very high so SE choose wait.

[Hasrat]

If 10000 players per server want housing, even 9999 houses isn't good enough. 10000 houses isn't good enough either if they keep allowing players to own multiple houses on one account. Simple as that.

Yes, and the beginning of this entire discussion is pointing out that the system isn't designed to serve all 10,000 players in this example. The system is designed to only ever meet "most" of the demand.

[Reinha]

Yes, and the beginning of this entire discussion is pointing out that the system isn't designed to serve all 10,000 players in this example. The system is designed to only ever meet "most" of the demand.

The glamour dresser wasn't designed to have 800 slots. Until it was. Our armoury chest wasn't designed to have 35 slots per gear type. Until it was. There is no proof that we could not have double or triple the wards if only the devs made it so. I believe we are more likely to get more wards than some instanced system designed from scratch that's equivalent to ward housing.

[Oizen]

Yes, and the beginning of this entire discussion is pointing out that the system isn't designed to serve all 10,000 players in this example. The system is designed to only ever meet "most" of the demand.

Well its failing that too then.

If you pay attention to the numbers we're seeing in the bids, its not even meeting 10% of the demand, let alone most of it.

The issue with the system is it flat out cannot scale with new users well, especially not at the rate Squeenix adds them. Its actually pointless to beg for new wards unless they're adding a metric fuckton of them (like 10+ to each district) and even then, there are servers that would burn through that in a single lottery.

Its why people are clamoring for Instanced Housing, as its a permanent solution that isn't actually all that server intensive, especially not compared to inflating the amount of wards by drastic amounts, also allows people to get the hosuing size that they want without the even more horrifically scarce medium and large housing, which honestly is made scarce completely arbitrary.

[Hasrat]

Well its failing that too then.

If you pay attention to the numbers we're seeing in the bids, its not even meeting 10% of the demand, let alone most of it.

I'd like to see evidence of 72,000 bids being placed on any housing plot, or even a total of 72,000 bids across any available plot.

[Oizen]

I'd like to see evidence of 72,000 bids being placed on any housing plot, or even a total of 72,000 bids across any available plot.

There are 7 houses up for bid on Zalera right now. Not sure why you're so obsessed with this 72,000 number. There aren't even that many houses on Zalera.

Once a house is occupied, it is subtracted from the supply, they're not magically multiplying each lottery.

[Siniztor]

Yes, and the beginning of this entire discussion is pointing out that the system isn't designed to serve all 10,000 players in this example. The system is designed to only ever meet "most" of the demand.

This system is designed to make sure JP severs do not have bad housing issues...If you lookup server numbers there almost every server has less then 7,200 people on it (Not active players).. So it seems SE uses JP servers as a bse for the housing numbers... or they would of added 4 more wards to every housing district to help out NA n EU..

I'd be willing to put my check on that if everyone moved to JP servers pushing them all over 10k people on them the housing system would end up with more houses