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  1. #301
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    Elucesta's Avatar
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    Miko Fukumoto
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 90
    These problems are so miniscule, cmon on. Do better.
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  2. #302
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    Wykk3d's Avatar
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    Pookee Bear
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    Zalera
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    Pugilist Lv 83
    Go with me here a sec. Hypothetical scenario - POV: Party DJ

    *DJ books gig.
    *Customer wants certain songs, but the DJ does not have them.
    *DJ buys a digital copy of the song.
    *DJ plays song that they purchased at the venue.

    So, let's say I want my bard to play the song "Blind". If I own the song (Literally.. cd and digital copy on Apple), wouldn't my bardic performance be much like that of a DJ; therefore, not subject to copyright infringement?

    Just curious. Maybe I am missing something?
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  3. #303
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    Seger's Avatar
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    Seger Way
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    Marilith
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zomkei View Post

    it’s not a competition anyway. play your music and just mind yourself and stop worrying about others.
    Perfect.

    This is a nonissue.
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  4. #304
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    george357's Avatar
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    Marcelloix Ostoiraint
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100

    bard macro player

    this has been always a toy for the players to have fun with not a target on their backs you hatemongers let it go.
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  5. #305
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    Nav_Fae's Avatar
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    Mizuchi Hikaze
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    Sargatanas
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    This thread WAS dead. There's nothing left to ad to the discussion without beating a dead horse.
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  6. #306
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    Saranade's Avatar
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    Sara Nade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zomkei View Post
    they can’t look at what’s on your pc, so all they would be doing is suspending folks who are being accused of it, and getting “innocent” players like yourself thrown in.

    it’s not a competition anyway. play your music and just mind yourself and stop worrying about others.
    It is again, this attitude about third party anything, that translates directly into the toxic end game, and other exploitable parts of the game. Honestly shame on you for shaming someone who is passionate about a part of the game that should just be for fun and enjoyable and not ruined by third party programs like everything else is right now.
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  7. #307
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    drtasteyummy's Avatar
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    Vitalic Oni
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saranade View Post
    It is again, this attitude about third party anything, that translates directly into the toxic end game, and other exploitable parts of the game. Honestly shame on you for shaming someone who is passionate about a part of the game that should just be for fun and enjoyable and not ruined by third party programs like everything else is right now.
    Shame on you for shaming on someone
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  8. #308
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    Banriikku's Avatar
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Shiva
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wykk3d View Post
    Go with me here a sec. Hypothetical scenario - POV: Party DJ

    *DJ books gig.
    *Customer wants certain songs, but the DJ does not have them.
    *DJ buys a digital copy of the song.
    *DJ plays song that they purchased at the venue.

    So, let's say I want my bard to play the song "Blind". If I own the song (Literally.. cd and digital copy on Apple), wouldn't my bardic performance be much like that of a DJ; therefore, not subject to copyright infringement?

    Just curious. Maybe I am missing something?
    Nope. Copyright works as following:
    As a customer you buy the right to play for yourself and a very small group of people aka Family and Friends in your home and the like. Thats allowed. As soon you play the song in the PUBLIC and the number of people listening dont even matter only the POSSIBILITY and making the media available to the public. You need a separate deal with rights owner to play it public or you can get sued. In my country it would go even without a judge as the first step. If you still insist that you are in the clear it goes to court and this can get very expensive very fast. BUT there are songs thats are public property. Play these and you are in the clear... if SE in this case accepts this because SE can still prohibit the use of all but FF14 music and even that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    When I saw that we were going from Broil III at 290 potency in ShB to Broil IV at 295 potency in EW, I was shaking with how excited I was. I couldn't believe they were so generous with a whole 5 potency. I'm going to probably scream in excitement when 7.0 comes out and Broil V hits 300 potency, playing SCH going to be WILD once it hits 300!!!

  9. #309
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    Toutatis's Avatar
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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Warrior Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Wykk3d View Post
    Go with me here a sec. Hypothetical scenario - POV: Party DJ

    *DJ books gig.
    *Customer wants certain songs, but the DJ does not have them.
    *DJ buys a digital copy of the song.
    *DJ plays song that they purchased at the venue.

    So, let's say I want my bard to play the song "Blind". If I own the song (Literally.. cd and digital copy on Apple), wouldn't my bardic performance be much like that of a DJ; therefore, not subject to copyright infringement?

    Just curious. Maybe I am missing something?
    What the previous poster said. And DJs normally pay licensing fees.

    Also, while not a problem when you play on your bard, some music may be in the public domain, the recordings themselves are copyrightable. For example, Beethoven’s music is in the public domain but a recording by x modern orchestra will be copyrighted.
    Pay licensing fees.

    Read the TOS, they are clear.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 08-11-2022 at 01:34 AM. Reason: typo

  10. #310
    Player dapperfaffer's Avatar
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    Reis Tengille
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wykk3d View Post
    Go with me here a sec. Hypothetical scenario - POV: Party DJ

    *DJ books gig.
    *Customer wants certain songs, but the DJ does not have them.
    *DJ buys a digital copy of the song.
    *DJ plays song that they purchased at the venue.

    So, let's say I want my bard to play the song "Blind". If I own the song (Literally.. cd and digital copy on Apple), wouldn't my bardic performance be much like that of a DJ; therefore, not subject to copyright infringement?

    Just curious. Maybe I am missing something?
    Ownership of the song. DJs have a limited liability protection because they are changing the song, but they do hold a requirement to change the song sufficiently.
    Just buying a song digitally doesn't mean you own the song, only an available copy sold under license.
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    Last edited by dapperfaffer; 08-04-2022 at 11:22 AM.

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