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  1. #81
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liesmyth View Post
    TRY AST SYNASTRY super useful (sarcasm)
    Synestry is an absolute life saver during cruise chaser/brute justice when you can heal both tanks at the same time. It at least has a niche Pepsis is just kinda a crappy version of ET
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  2. #82
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    Hoatu Hotus
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    Brynhildr
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    It fits where it fits. Particularly, pre-ShB content.

    Physis 2 + E.Prog/Pepsis + Ixochole is a solid heal check combo (TG CID for example on the 2nd Cleansing Strike of the alliances overlapped the bubbles and people didn’t step into the Duskblade leaving just you as the sole SGE healer to recover from Cleansing Strike…I’ve experienced it one time too many). I think of i get worried, I cast Zoe+Prognosis.

    A lot easier than the SCH. I have to place Excog on the tank, dump my AF beforehand, use Whispering Dawn, Fey Illumination, and Dissipatipn for an ET+Succor and Indom. If I need to solo heal the Cleansing Strike. Coz sometimes, you end up with a potato cohealer who thinks spamming E.Prog over and over is “helping”.
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  3. #83
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Only time i use pepis is yesterday farming unsch ex for gwibers where i was solo healing to burn though boss lol, only time it seem great was for the warrior of light 1 hp mech but then am like oh wait zoe and pnemua and a exo ixochole boom all full healed. off the hot bar it goes again.

    Just let pepsis be like dt so we can spread big e crit diags, nothing seeing my entire hp bar or dsp hp bar full covered or tank half cover but the regret to not be able to spread it hurts. But if they do that I guess sch mains will be real mad and probably less played.
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  4. #84
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbid View Post
    Pepsis is almost the same scholar Emergency Tactics.
    It's not really because Sage has Prognosis.

    ET Succor + Succor is 1040 total potency, a 320 gain over double Succor.

    Eprog + Pepsi + Eprog is 870 total potency and only a measly 150 gain over Prog + Eprog. Pepsi also has twice the cooldown.

    It's just not a good ability.
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  5. #85
    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    It's not really because Sage has Prognosis.

    ET Succor + Succor is 1040 total potency, a 320 gain over double Succor.

    Eprog + Pepsi + Eprog is 870 total potency and only a measly 150 gain over Prog + Eprog. Pepsi also has twice the cooldown.

    It's just not a good ability.
    Yep and the fact another sage can waste your shields that you rather keep in some cases is very very annoying. I start leaving 8 man and up content if am paired with another sage. Double ast with card wars in old sb days too was whew. 90% wortheless esuna is on my bar over pepsis
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  6. #86
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    Hoatu Hotus
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I usually use that moment to teach the new SGE. One example, I got a lucky crit Adlo, but a SGE threw their E.Diag on me at the last moment, losing it and wasting the Deploy.

    I started commenting about it and that’s when the SGE player realized “Oh…I did something wrong.” But it turned out ok because he said he doesn’t know how to play shield healers together as there’s nothing in the SGE (or healer quest lines in general) that tells you that. If you never play SCH, you have no idea what Galvanize is. Which was fine, I taught him that you don’t spam E.Prog back to back because it wastes your shields. That if we’re in emergency heal mode, he has Prognosis. That he only needs shields when there’s a large raidwide coming or he needs to use Pepsis or get back Toxikon charges. I told him too, that as a SGE, your DPS is much more valuable.

    Another person I met said they’re used to always doing the shields when they play SGE, they just assumed they’re the one. I let them know not to worry about it. I’ll handle the shields as the SCH. So, the SGE goes from spamming shields constantly, to focusing on DPSing, while I barely use any shields because in ShB content, Sacred Soil and Recit+Indom/Excog handles everything just fine.

    The thing is, the onus is placed in the other SGE/SCH player to make a random roulette teams work by teaching the other player.

    That’s not good design and is something SE should fix.
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  7. #87
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    Snow Fox
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    Zurvan
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    Fisher Lv 58
    It works just fine if you know how to use it.
    Most common use is if you missed a raidwide with your shields and just use it for healing.
    Or there is healing needed in a short amount of time.

    Its kind of particular, but it works for what its designed for.
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  8. #88
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Another little detail that makes ET superior to Pepsis is that it has a cooldown of 15s and lasts 15s. You can use it in advance for two ET Succor back-to-back in addition to a regular Succor.
    Few mechanics require this many GCD heals in a row, not even the 4th turn has heal checks that justify it outside early prog with entry-level gear, but it's something that makes it more flexible compared to Pepsis. And for everything outside these heal checks early tier you barely, if ever, use GCD heals with the myriad of other tools. Let alone Pepsis.

    "Knowing how to use it" is essentially "knowing how to avoid it by being using your other tools that are better".
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  9. #89
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I always said Pepsis should interact with haima and panhaima rather than eukrasian prognosis, something like using Pepsis when one is active sacrifices the expiration heal in exchange for causing all remaining stacks of the shield to apply instantly, that gives SGE access to a powerful oGCD shield for both single target and AOE at the expense of the powerful expiration heal those two skills gives, a real heal trade off situation, do you need a fat shield now, or do you need a mild mitigation now and strong heal later
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  10. #90
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    Liam Harper
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Similar to Krasis, I'd straight up delete Pepsis and add in some interesting dps. Krasis and Pepsi are just filler that we don't really need. You could make them really good, but we're swimming in free heals already. Or you could use the free slots to give SGE some of that "dps healer" identity it was meant to have.
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