I had multiple matches this last rotation through Onsal Hakkar (I've been away and unable to reply until now) and after dealing with paladins in every single match, on points that they literally are the only two of their team there, and then lose match after match to paladin cheese, I'm done playing the mode.

It feels awful to be playing a class I have fun on and know that the only way my team can win is if I learn some job I don't enjoy in pvp to specifically counter a move that may not be a cheat, but sure feels like one. So, not only do people need to play a certain class, they cannot even really participate other than as pld counter offensive move.

Yes, it's creative. So is most any cheat or hack. Fixing a bad mechanic working in a way that wasn't necessarily intended isn't stifling some budding artists' creative endeavor.

If you make people feel cheated and all-around negative about a mode, the less they participate. The less people participate, the more people complain about PVP being dead because the df refuses to pop. So on and so forth and numbers dwindle and that's not what anyone wants.

The reason we come here and bring these issues up is because we hope to be able to avoid that. I like PVP actually. I'd like to continue participating but I do this for fun and to relax. If that isn't going to be the goal for this map that's fine, I don't need to play it.