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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    I'm surprised they haven't removed the dot yet, considering how difficult that must be for some to maintain.
    Nah, they'll make the DoT last 15 minutes with 400 potency ticks and remove the single target cast

    Solves their "we need dps for leveling" issue and lets Sylphies live out their fantasy of being on standby while watching Netflix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Nah, they'll make the DoT last 15 minutes with 400 potency ticks and remove the single target cast

    Solves their "we need dps for leveling" issue and lets Sylphies live out their fantasy of being on standby while watching Netflix.
    Sylphies still won’t press it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Sylphies still won’t press it
    Clearly it needs to be merged with a healing effect!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Clearly it needs to be merged with a healing effect!
    I’ve seen people actively avoid pressing assize because it does damage

    At this point if it isn’t called cure 1 and doesn’t have the most grating sound possible they won’t press it
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Sylphies still won’t press it
    And that's one of the major points of contention.

    Adding more DPS options doesn't affect the Healers who don't DPS. At all.

    It'll only affect the people who want a bit more out of the Healing role than the exact same DPS rotation from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 08-01-2022 at 12:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    And that's one of the major points of contention.

    Adding more DPS options doesn't affect the Healers who don't DPS. At all.

    It'll only affect the people who want a bit more out of the Healing role than the exact same DPS rotation from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    I mean isn’t that the problem with healers right now in general, they are being designed for the absolute baseline so there is absolutely no ceiling to them at all.

    What’s the problem with playing them like tanks or older healer, a lower end tank doesn’t need a flawless combo in order to effectively use their mitigation but with healers it’s just designed so that it’s implied it’s basically impossible to do both even if oGCD heals do exactly that

    It’s why I liked 3.0 SCH, nobody was gonna crucify you if you couldn’t juggle all 6 DOT’s effectively but those that could had an interesting optimisation path, and for those that liked the healing aspect fairy micromanagement is better than anything we have now in the healing department except maybe clutch tech with spreadlo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I mean isn’t that the problem with healers right now in general, they are being designed for the absolute baseline so there is absolutely no ceiling to them at all.
    We were told (paraphrasing) that we were being brought down to a baseline in Stormblood so that the devs could build us up from the ground up. Hasn't really happened, or it has and a decent part of the player base simply doesn't agree with the result or like it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    We were told (paraphrasing) that we were being brought down to a baseline in Stormblood so that the devs could build us up from the ground up. Hasn't really happened, or it has and a decent part of the player base simply doesn't agree with the result or like it.
    Even though all the healers except maybe SCH have gotten even simpler since the ShB healer change (SCH kinda horizontal shifted only giving up clunk not complexity), if there was a growth from 5.0 I certainly am not seeing it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    We were told (paraphrasing) that we were being brought down to a baseline in Stormblood so that the devs could build us up from the ground up. Hasn't really happened, or it has and a decent part of the player base simply doesn't agree with the result or like it.
    Delay is the most effective form of denial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    Delay is the most effective form of denial.
    off topic vetch but your profile pic is the most cursed thing Ive ever seen
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