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  1. #1121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    the use of logs without actually trying to help me get better. I'm tired of hearing about numbers. They don't mean a damn thing when people are screwing up mechanics.
    As a Scholar main; if you want to genuinely improve, you should look at your logs because there's a lot of fundamentals you are lacking on a basic level. Ultimate Legends screwing up mechanics aren't the reason for your logs looking the way they do - while a healer's parse is affected by the quality of the groups they run with, when everyone else is doing so much better than you, the group isn't the problem.
    You'll probably take this as an attack, but it's genuinely not, I just really like talking about Scholar (which is why like 95% of my posts are specifically about it) - you don't have to listen to this advice at all but if you do your gameplay will improve and you will be a much better Scholar for it.

    You don't use Ruin II at all - while it is optimal to never use it, using Ruin II is better than just not casting at all or canceling Broil IV casts to move. If you need to move more than slidecasting and your weave window allow, use Ruin II. If you need to weave more than 1 oGCD, use Ruin II (not optimal or recommended generally, but if you're having to focus on healing, do it)- you have weave issues where you're using 2-3 oGCD heals between Broil casts. You can also refresh Biolysis at 15s or lower if you need to move as well, as 15s is where its worth more than a Broil IV cast potency wise. Obviously you want the full amount (refreshing Bio at 3s) for the full 700 potency, but if you need to move/weave 2 heals and you can use Bio for that at 15s or lower, it's not a DPS loss like Ruin II is. In a way, Ruin II makes Scholar the most mobile of the healers in unoptimized environments as you're always going to be able to be doing damage while handling mechanics/moving, and the 75 potency loss per Ruin II over Broil IV is much better than the full 295 loss of not casting anything at all, so make sure you're using it over nothing at all.

    You have low uptime on Biolysis; you need to make sure you're constantly keeping uptime on your DoT, a good part of your damage comes from it and the more you keep your DoT ticking the less over all damage loss using GCD heals like Succor and Adloquium are over the course of the fight.

    You're letting Aetherflow drift over the course of the fight, resulting in lost healing that you're having to cover with Succor/Adlo and lost damage from not using Energy Drain, which you didn't use at all during the fight. It's easier to treat Energy Drain as a stack dump rather than a purely offensive tool; get into the habit of using Aetherflow on cooldown and if you have any stacks before it's about to be off CD again, use Energy Drain to dump them. Every Succor you used could've been covered by Indomitability or Sacred Soil; etc. It is less of a DPS loss to use Aetherflow heals first, so ensuring that Aetherflow doesn't drift is the best way to make sure you can heal as much as possible before dipping into GCD heals. Keeping Aetherflow on CD is basically the most key mechanic of Scholar; it is central to your MP economy and how you heal, so be sure to focus on making sure it drifts as little as possible.

    You're also not using Recitation, Seraph or Expedient nearly enough; Recitation is 90s and Seraph and Expedient are 120s, you should use them fairly liberally, Recitation especially should be used to cover healing as much as possible, Recit Indom or Excog are cracked and heal a lot. I know it can feel like you need to save Seraph/Expedient for when they would work best (I find myself doing this a lot) but it's better to use them a lot and then hone in on the best usage per fight rather than just saving them and only getting 1 use per fight. Always aim to get 2 uses of Consolation from every Summon Seraph; I like to preshield large raidwides with the first, and then heal up the damage with the second Consolation. There's no reason to ever not use both as they will both be available the next time you can Summon Seraph. Expedient sometimes feels like you should use it for the sprint and so a lot of Scholars hold it in anticipation for a mechanic that might be useful, but it's also 20s of 10% mitigation, so using it to mitigate more than using it for the sprint can give you the most mileage out of it.

    Also Whispering Dawn should be used as much as possible, the regen is great and it and Fey blessing should always be your bread and butter heals on Scholar first before dipping into Aetherflow. Your healing priority on Scholar is basically Protraction>Faerie Healers>Aetherflow Heals>GCD heals so try to minimize your GCDs as much as possible.

    Anyways I won't derail this thread further, but if you want to talk about how to get better at Scholar or healers in general feel free to make a thread on the healer forum and myself and many healers who are better than I would love to help.
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  2. #1122
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    I'd let Liam look at my numbers.

    I'm sorry, that was cringey and I don't mean it.
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  3. #1123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Me on my catboi alt as an AST. Castrum Meridianum via roulette. Got paired with a possibly YPYT-tank.

    When the barrier drops, we all sprint forward. The WAR however stops at the first pack. Just spamming their 1-2 aoe rotation. Meanwhile I was a bit far ahead with two other DPSes (RPR and RDM) who presumably at moment also wants wall pulls. We wiggled about a bit but still no response from the WAR. RPR immediately turn around to aggro the 2nd pack. WAR picks them up then we burn both packs effortlessly.

    Next pull before first boss, again, the WAR stick to first pull. This time RDM pulled. At first aggro were mostly on WAR. But as we mow down the pack, I noticed at least a couple of mob’s enmity are pingpong’ing. Not an issue though, everything hits like wet noodle. Fast forward to after first boss, it became apparent that the WAR possibly tried to ‘punish’ the puller. Knowing the two DPSes craved for walls still, I just ran forward and pull everything. Aggro pingpong’ed a while but nothing like an additional cast of Asp.Helioses can’t fix. Nice knowing there’s something else to do other than just spamming gravities majority of time.

    At 2nd boss and onward the WAR purposely eats all the red carpets like cookies. They even went as far as running toward a proximity marker. But heh y’know what WAR? Blame the dungeon for hitting you like wet noodles. Came out of dungeon w/ comms. I personally believe that came from both DPSes.

    I also enjoyed letting his health drop so low he finally pop those Vengeance and Rampart at really low health when he’s actually tanking something!
    This is why I SCH. If I have two groups wanting different things...I have my Selene babysit the soloist and I keep to the pack. Healing for everyone.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  4. #1124
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    I'd let Liam look at my numbers.

    I'm sorry, that was cringey and I don't mean it.
    You gotta be more upfront!

    Liam, what if you looked at my numbers with me at the route 2 toyota dealership sale? Unless..

    Ok, I'm sorry. I just had to add onto the cringe - it was good while it lasted.
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  5. #1125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    You gotta be more upfront!

    Liam, what if you looked at my numbers with me at the route 2 toyota dealership sale? Unless..

    Ok, I'm sorry. I just had to add onto the cringe - it was good while it lasted.
    At least we could be cringey together!
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  6. #1126
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    At least we could be cringey together!
    Now kiss....

    If not I'll be disappointed and I'll want my money back.

    I didn't pay any money to begin with...but I want something.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  7. #1127
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    At least we could be cringey together!
    The real cringe was the friends we make along the way <3

    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Now kiss....

    If not I'll be disappointed and I'll want my money back.

    I didn't pay any money to begin with...but I want something.
    Women can be friends! How dare you suggest such a thing.


    (But if you join in, that would make for a different story.)
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  8. #1128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    As a Scholar main...

    It doesn't feel like an attack. It's only surprising to see this from you.

    (but I do need to say I'm not trying to draw any link between the faux legend and my logs. It was straight from the other legend tank that stuck around for the retell and saw the mistakes that were made. People should be mad at those that give legends a bad name, not me. anyway...)

    I appreciate it and I'll consider it. Obviously, I don't use that tool. I've seen one or two links. I didn't know I had a history, but I'll look into it. I do try to use everything as much as possible and keep an eye out for the best times. I also realize when I've made mistakes. I try to save expedient for things like eruptions and orbs. Beyond that, my shielding seems to cover things well enough.

    I've had little trouble when healing this and seldom have difficulties healing or filling another role. It's PF, so shit happens. I've only seen enrage with maybe one or two groups since this started and I've been going every week.

    I would aim past that, but frankly I had my fill for a while after dealing with BLU savage. Scheduling and personalities is more than I care to deal with at the moment. If I consider going back to savage or attempting ultimate, I'll be sure to check with folks.
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  9. #1129
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    Do you ever feel like people are out to get you? Obviously they're not, that's crazy talk but when you spend your daily roulettes getting crushed between other people's spread markers or getting rescue sling shotted away from the team by the healer while you have a stack marker... it feels that way. It really does.
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  10. #1130
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    Joined a PF group where people needed help with p4s clear. I got invited to VC and joined in as not to be rude but I said it two times that I wont be talking, I was there to only listen. They said its okay. I was expecting normal callouts.

    But after 3 pulls I started regret it. It ended up becoming the most uncomfortable call I have ever had, even more than an actual job interview. They tried to get me to talk when I have said specifically I wont talk on mic especially when it has nothing to do with the content. No, I dont care about how much did you drink in your friends birthday party.

    First they tried to be funny, then they teased me for being nervous, "dont be shy", etc (I was not, I just couldnt be bothered and wanted to kill some time by playing a video game, I wasnt there to socialize). Then when it all failed and I still didnt talk, I think someone was actually flirting with me, or with my character, or both, with their friends urging "Go on, send them a friend request after the raid" it made me want to turn my PC off right there and then.

    I ended up just muting my sound, enjoying the fight with no "background noises". Then after around 30 mins we still couldnt get past phase 1. Someone left, I think they had enough of it, followed by me, instantly. You think Goku instant teleportation is fast? think again. The moment the RDM left (thank you RDM), I pressed Leave button as fast as humanely possible.

    Why is it so hard for people to understand that not everyone wants to talk with any strangers they met? it takes time for me to even want to chat in game with someone. Let alone talk in VC.

    Lesson learned. Screw PF discord VC.
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