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  1. #11
    Player
    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    So like, fundamentally I agree with you but the people working on FF7 stuff are not the same people working on FF14 stuff. They're under two separate teams with separate team leads, and make separate decisions.

    One could argue that since they're run by the same company with the same CEO that it'd have an impact, but that's like saying the production and team behind Black Butler impacts the production and team behind Kakegurui or Fullmetal Alchemist.
    its funny to me you think we wont be seeing 14 nfts.
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  2. #12
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    Grayfia Astaroth
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What you may not know is that your character has to belong to a FC that owns a FC house to be able to purchase a FC room. If your character leaves or is removed from that FC, you lose that room and the gil you paid for it (though you have 35 days to reclaims your furnishings from the Resident Caretaker).

    Getting an apartment is worth the extra 200k gil because you never have to worry about losing it even if you take a break from the game for a year. How many FCs are going to leave absent members in their rosters that long?


    It's honestly hard to say that Balmung really is that overcrowded when all we have to go by are character numbers, not account numbers. If Balmung players are averaging 3 Balmung characters per account while players on other NA worlds are averaging 2 characters per world on their accounts, Balmung's real population is about the same.

    If we want to stick to active character numbers, Balmung isn't the worst. Mateus is and has been since Endwalker's release.

    Keep in mind that Balmung's been considered the "massively overcrowded" world for years. We can go back to the census in July 2017 (Stormblood release) when Balmung had 21k and the other NA worlds were averaging 14k. If 21k was massively overcrowded then, then all NA worlds are massively overcrowded now.

    Once 6.2 is released, some of the Primal and Aether worlds are going to jump back up close to Balmung and Mateus numbers like they had been at the start of the expansion (Famfrit, Gilgamesh, and Jenova had been within 2k of Balmung). Then their numbers will slowly die back down as raiders complete their Savage clears, finish farming what they want and quit to go play other games. RPers and players into more casual content are more likely to stay subscribed the full patch.
    Gosh the amount of players when endwalker came out was nuts people trying for hours trying to get on the game.
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  3. #13
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Padudu Moro
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    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 90
    It's a bit of a sucky feeling to be losing every lotto so far for sure!
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  4. #14
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I honestly don't know why people still roll on Balmung. It was my original server and I rolled out of it so long ago.
    It's always been one of the most crowded servers, there was even that period in SB where they lokced ti from creation for so long that people thought it'd never open again. I
    I get that's it's (E)RP central but if people want a house it's really the wrong palce to be.
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  5. #15
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    its funny to me you think we wont be seeing 14 nfts.
    That's not at all what I said and you know it, considering you quoted my entire post. Where I start by saying, and I quote: So like, I fundamentally agree with you....

    Either learn to actually read or don't, I don't care, but definitely don't attempt to lie about my position when I'm stating the exact opposite in whatever you quote.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  6. #16
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    I honestly don't know why people still roll on Balmung. It was my original server and I rolled out of it so long ago.
    It's always been one of the most crowded servers, there was even that period in SB where they lokced ti from creation for so long that people thought it'd never open again. I
    I get that's it's (E)RP central but if people want a house it's really the wrong palce to be.
    People new to playing the game don't know this.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  7. #17
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    People new to playing the game don't know this.
    New people usually have a congested servers vs favoured servers as a guideline though.
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  8. #18
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    New people usually have a congested servers vs favoured servers as a guideline though.
    The only thing they have when creating a character is a star next to a preferred server, or greyed out servers if they absolutely can't make new characters. The rest are free game, and for all they know a star next to the server may mean it's empty and that's why SE is funneling characters to them. I know I did, initially, when playing the game.

    Regardless, how are they supposed to know that Balmung is ERP central/Overcrowded/they won't get an apartment or a house/etc. etc.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  9. #19
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    Sin Bathory
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Problem is the shortage of both houses and apartments

    Houses 24w x 60h x 5(Different housing areas) = 7,200 houses
    Apartments 24w x 180 apartments x5 (different areas) = 10,800

    Going by a year old census only one server had under 10,000 active players Malboro at 9,926 (this was Dec 2021)

    Useing these numbers there is no way for everyone to have either a house or a apartment....

    Most servers have apartments but Balmung is just the rp capital and one of the largest servers

    The main problem is they allowed people who own a house to have a apartment. Most of the people who have a house have alts with apartments because your own account dosnet share a house...I'd bet money if they allowed Houses to be account wide.. you might see some apartments open,,

    Ass stated https://dotesports.com/mmo/news/all-...er-populationsthis is from dec 2021

    The interesting part is if you look at JP servers wile we are mostly over 10k active there around 7k...with only like 4 or 5 servers over the amount of housing,,

    I wonder if the housing Issue was reversed and JP was having a massive problem if there would be been a fix in the last what 5 years...

    Its like there using the active JP server numbers to determine number of houses aka no new wards added (Ya know 4 wards to each of the zone more to 28) just the new zone this
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    Last edited by Siniztor; 07-26-2022 at 04:42 AM.

  10. #20
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    Angellos Virius
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I don't know what Balmung that person was looking at because there are not 28 open personal plots. Every single house had 200+ bids on them for personal housing.

    Every apartment is gone.

    People play on Balmung because there's a huge population of RP'ers there, and a decent amount of statics for raiding. New people come to Balmung because they want to play with their friends who are already established there. We lose our apartments if we move, we lose our houses if we move, we lose our FCs if we move: None of it transfers over - so why would we ever leave? The only people who don't want instanced housing are those who want to feel special because they clicked a placard the fastest, or got lucky on a lotto. Housing shouldn't be a status symbol of luck: It should be accessible to EVERYONE, equally. Just like in real life. You have to practically be rich with a perfect credit score to get a mortgage in America: I'm sick of feeling like housing is inaccessible in the game too.
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