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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Even adlo isn’t really that impactful it’s deployment tactics that’s the one that feels really impactful, adlo itself is just a generic GCD heal
    It has way more kit synergy than just deployment, critlo is one of the most powerful mitigation tools in the game.

    I mean if you move the goal post to "interesting without accounting for any kit interaction" then yes, but what is impactful in a vacuum? The few boring mega-heal moves? That's kind of the reason why so much is so underwhelming. Nothing will stand out when everything is just interchangeable buttons with slight heal potency variances and it largely doesn't matter which one you use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    It has way more kit synergy than just deployment, critlo is one of the most powerful mitigation tools in the game.

    I mean if you move the goal post to "interesting without accounting for any kit interaction" then yes, but what is impactful in a vacuum? The few boring mega-heal moves? That's kind of the reason why so much is so underwhelming. Nothing will stand out when everything is just interchangeable buttons with slight heal potency variances and it largely doesn't matter which one you use.
    I mean critlo deployment is the one synergy it has, and it’s still a GCD which feels bad over mitigating with oGCD’s. I’ll maintain something like kerachole that has a specific design and function works way better than a GCD heal can even if it does synergies with some oGCD’s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I mean critlo deployment is the one synergy it has, and it’s still a GCD which feels bad over mitigating with oGCD’s. I’ll maintain something like kerachole that has a specific design and function works way better than a GCD heal can even if it does synergies with some oGCD’s
    You can't deploy critlo anymore. Ever since they split it into 2 effects. Galvanise (normal shield) and Catalyse (critical shield) if you use deployment tactics you only deploy galvanise not caralyse.

    One of the reasons deployment tactics is so weak now. Can't even deploy protraction.. and if you need aoe shields it's easier to just succor...

    Untargettable fairy doesn't help either. Used to be some play there. Deploying off of a well placed fairy to ensure maximum shield spread.of a full hp shield due to fairy ignoring most damage..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    Deploying off of a well placed fairy to ensure maximum shield spread.of a full hp shield due to fairy ignoring most damage..
    I really really dislike the fact that the fairy can be killed while you can't target them. . . just make them immune to damage at this point ffs.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I really really dislike the fact that the fairy can be killed while you can't target them. . . just make them immune to damage at this point ffs.
    Wait....what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I didn't use the word "impactful". I said fun. GCD heals are more "fun" to use. However, their impact is a given considering that "last resort trash" is keeping the tank between the mob and your face. oGCD heals are both a bane and boon to healing. Simultaneously being the source of whoa and woe. However, in a situation where you have exhausted your "impactful" skills and having to resort to GCDs to heal, you should be well engaged as a healer.
    You find pressing 1 button more fun than multiple?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    You find pressing 1 button more fun than multiple?
    Sure, it's 1 button, but it's not the 1 button at least.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I really really dislike the fact that the fairy can be killed while you can't target them. . . just make them immune to damage at this point ffs.
    Does this still happen? I'm pretty sure that they became immune from damage in addition to being untargetable by enemies going into Shadowbringers, I only recall them taking damage up until the end of Stormblood like O12s where the Faerie could get clipped by tank busters and melt instantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunhwapark View Post
    Does this still happen? I'm pretty sure that they became immune from damage in addition to being untargetable by enemies going into Shadowbringers, I only recall them taking damage up until the end of Stormblood like O12s where the Faerie could get clipped by tank busters and melt instantly.
    Fairy is invincible the only way it'll dissappear is if you die. Or you place it somewhere and move to far from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    You can't deploy critlo anymore. Ever since they split it into 2 effects. Galvanise (normal shield) and Catalyse (critical shield) if you use deployment tactics you only deploy galvanise not caralyse.

    One of the reasons deployment tactics is so weak now. Can't even deploy protraction.. and if you need aoe shields it's easier to just succor...

    Untargettable fairy doesn't help either. Used to be some play there. Deploying off of a well placed fairy to ensure maximum shield spread.of a full hp shield due to fairy ignoring most damage..
    You don't need to spread Protraction to buff everyone's shield. Use aldo on the target that has the protraction buff and then spread. The shield applied is the same for everyone. Also, Fey Illumination+Recitation+Protaction+Dissipation+Aldo+Spread is much better for surviving hard-hitting raid-wides than Succor. The shield amount is almost four times greater than that of an unbuffed Succor.

    If Protraction is spreadable, it would be nice since max HP increase works like an additional shield.
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