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  1. #11
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Every lottery-week leads to more anger and frustration within the community. As it gets worse, maybe it will get loud enough for Square to at least issue a statement about why they can't invest more into their own game to give players the home ownership they advertised.
    Frankly, a statement from Square is the only thing I'll accept at this point. Well meaning people can give reasonable guesses as to why Square can't add more wards, and maybe it'll even be based on some old translated interview from 5 years ago or something, but reading it is a bit like watching a customer stand up for WalMart or something. Let the company that takes your money every month speak for itself. Square's a big boy; this is literally the least they can do.
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  2. #12
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Every lottery-week leads to more anger and frustration within the community.
    That's a good example of what's wrong with community reaction. Take the lottery away, go back to FCFS, and everyone will still be angry because they still won't have a house. For most of them, their chance of ever getting one would drastically reduce because they're not interested in placard camping.

    It's not the lottery that's at fault. It's the lack of supply that makes the lottery necessary in the first place that is causing the problem.

    As long as people complain about the lottery, SE is going to think it's the lottery that people want changed. People need to be talking about the supply because that is what needs to be changed.
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  3. #13
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    Netaie Na'an'li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    As long as people complain about the lottery, SE is going to think it's the lottery that people want changed. People need to be talking about the supply because that is what needs to be changed.
    The development is smart enough to know what this is not a lottery problem, but a supply one don't worry about it

    It's been for years that people ask for more ward, bigger apartment or instance (before lottery appears). So SE already known that the solution was not good enough even before releasing it. But I think that, with the data they had, this solution is better than
    the previous one

    We must continue to talk about it and be more precise as you say. They will not add more ward easily due to the cost. If it was cheap it would be done for years as this solution has no impact on the game itself and is the simplest one.
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  4. #14
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    Gunbladesman's Avatar
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    Yukia Nesa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's the lack of supply that makes the lottery necessary in the first place that is causing the problem.
    Which will never change because either due to actual hardware and server limitation or the developers pride (wanting that neighborhood feel even though I can walk through to every house in a ward and maybe see 2 people). Broken system that keeps getting band aid fixes while the players fight over literal scraps of what could be a great housing system. Now we are at the point where if you want a house you need to bend over backwards and server transfer or make a shell fc and abandon your current one to even stand a chance at a small let alone the pipe dream of something larger. But all our complaining and critiquing will not turn into actual results for years at which point SE has already made their profit from subs.
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  5. #15
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    AlenyaElizabelle's Avatar
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    Zana Elizabelle
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    Lets do the maths.
    5 housing districts, 24 wards, 60 plots per ward - that is 7,400 houses.
    That isn't even 5% of a single servers population. And then you'd have 6-8 servers on each data center, which means about 56,000 houses.
    And you're talking a million people playing across all data centers, so you'd be lucky enough to get a quarter of players with their own house, and if more people play the game, it will drop.
    I'd love to own my own house, and yet an apartment or a room in FC is the best we can get - so basically a council house if you think about it.
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  6. #16
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    Yukia Nesa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhea_ View Post
    Probably won't happen
    The more likely answer
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  7. #17
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    Stormy Dayz
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    Mateus has 0 open plots, at least 0 of which are available for bidding. Sorry but I am not happy about the housing situation. I pay a subscription just like anyone else, and part of the game is unavailable to me because there are no houses available for purchase. I have the gil, in fact I have ample gil to not only buy a large, but a small and medium too. What am I supposed to do with all my gil? I don't need anything if I can't own a house. I'm sick of housing being used as part of the lure of the game. Be honest... take it out of your ads because it is simply something no new player will ever achieve. And I think what frustrates me the most is the people who are grandfathered in and able to own multiple houses or in some instances an entire ward. Either upgrade the system so you can add more wards, or figure out something else, or better still reopen the entire aspect of losing your home if you haven't entered it in 45 days. All in all, this experience is turning me off playing FFXIV, especially since there are many other games out there that offer housing and have it done right.
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  8. #18
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Condygurl View Post
    Mateus has 0 open plots, at least 0 of which are available for bidding. Sorry but I am not happy about the housing situation. I pay a subscription just like anyone else, and part of the game is unavailable to me because there are no houses available for purchase. I have the gil, in fact I have ample gil to not only buy a large, but a small and medium too. What am I supposed to do with all my gil? I don't need anything if I can't own a house. I'm sick of housing being used as part of the lure of the game. Be honest... take it out of your ads because it is simply something no new player will ever achieve. And I think what frustrates me the most is the people who are grandfathered in and able to own multiple houses or in some instances an entire ward. Either upgrade the system so you can add more wards, or figure out something else, or better still reopen the entire aspect of losing your home if you haven't entered it in 45 days. All in all, this experience is turning me off playing FFXIV, especially since there are many other games out there that offer housing and have it done right.
    You pay to have access to the Servers. Nothing more.

    If you want some suggestions about spending your gil. Buy the Golden Namazu Mount or throw gil onto some Sprouts who started the game recently. At least you wont feel so miserable to bother about housing anymore and you will make a few players happy or find new friends along the way.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    You pay to have access to the Servers. Nothing more.
    Hmmm housing is the only feature in the game that you cannot access without needing to rely on RNG. No other feature in the game is inaccessible to any player willing to put in ample time and effort. Why are you seemingly defending this broken system when every player should be able to get a house. Are the houses supposed to be artificially scarce? Do they need to have property values in case you sell the house or just for some inane sense of "f you I got mine" on the account of people who already have houses.
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  10. #20
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condygurl View Post
    Mateus has 0 open plots, at least 0 of which are available for bidding. Sorry but I am not happy about the housing situation. I pay a subscription just like anyone else, and part of the game is unavailable to me because there are no houses available for purchase. I have the gil, in fact I have ample gil to not only buy a large, but a small and medium too. What am I supposed to do with all my gil? I don't need anything if I can't own a house. I'm sick of housing being used as part of the lure of the game. Be honest... take it out of your ads because it is simply something no new player will ever achieve. And I think what frustrates me the most is the people who are grandfathered in and able to own multiple houses or in some instances an entire ward. Either upgrade the system so you can add more wards, or figure out something else, or better still reopen the entire aspect of losing your home if you haven't entered it in 45 days. All in all, this experience is turning me off playing FFXIV, especially since there are many other games out there that offer housing and have it done right.
    SE certainly needs to take out the housing from their advertisements- Because someone coming in expecting some easy house buying process that they may be used to in any other game that has it, will be met with disappointment when they find out how it's all RNG, that there are also people who own entire wards, that there are also "fake" (aka: shell) FC's were made just to get a house, and that there is no way to get a house because the demolition timer was turned off.

    Housing being optional content, but that doesn't mean it should be limited availability & most of the player base locked out of it- we pay to have access to this game so we can experience all it has to offer- not be cut out due to 'small-indie-game-no money's' short sightedness or unwillingness to make improvements to optional or side content.
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