BOTS ARE IN THE WALLS!!!

[Darthgummibear]

It will always happen. The people that have bots make money. All this world is focused on is making money. Nothing else matters. SE can ban them endlessly and the cycle will continue. Get used to it. It will NEVER go away.

This kind of defeatist attitude is destroying society.

[Kuroka]

I feel like they could nix the teleport hackers by adding kill zones in out of the bounds areas they need to pass through and/or adjusting enemy AI so it resets if it's unable to execute its script properly due to its target being in the floor or in the air.

Ill never understand why this isnt a thing, insta death and ban, done.

[Kes13a]

This kind of defeatist attitude is destroying society.

banning the bots is a lesson in futility. the money is there, they will just make more.

hard ban the people buying the gil.. their market dries up, less bots.

pushing SE to deal with the bots will never make them go away. push SE to deal with the real issue, which are the people giving the bots a market in the first place. the bots are just taking advantage of a market, no market.. fewer bots... period.

the same issue with society... dont fix the problem.. fix the symptoms. if society was committed to actually fixing the problem instead of applying bandaids, things would be better.

[drtasteyummy]

Ill never understand why this isnt a thing, insta death and ban, done.

Because they are fine how it is, the truth is bots are a permanent problem no many how many resources you put into it, most notably when you have a free trial.
They could add kill zones, what would it help? The botters would adjust, suddenly we have thousand of bots on the surface which just discourages players, particularly new players.
If they really want it to stop they would have to spend a lot of resources because you can't win against botters, they have nothing to lose really, it means the only people
that are valueable to ban are the buyers, however, the gold market is gigantic and you could say that at least 20-40% of any community buys gold. That means from a company
perspective that you not only spend a huge amount of resources to detect these movements but also would have to ban a gigantic part of your community. Which is giga a
money loss, or you could just look away as long as they do not show up for other players see WoW classic dungeon botting or underground farming and so on.

It's not like SE can't fight it, they just don't want to. The "1000" bots or whatever they ban each week are just to scare people off and fill their hunting propaganda which is easly
supported by the few bots you see on the surface, the reality is that these amounts are probably generated daily.

[Kes13a]

Because they are fine how it is, the truth is bots are a permanent problem no many how many resources you put into it, most notably when you have a free trial.
They could add kill zones, what would it help? The botters would adjust, suddenly we have thousand of bots on the surface which just discourages players, particularly new players.
If they really want it to stop they would have to spend a lot of resources because you can't win against botters, they have nothing to lose really, it means the only people
that are valueable to ban are the buyers, however, the gold market is gigantic and you could say that at least 20-40% of any community buys gold. That means from a company
perspective that you not only spend a huge amount of resources to detect these movements but also would have to ban a gigantic part of your community. Which is gigantic
money loss, or you could just look away as long as they do not show up for other players see WoW classic dungeon botting or underground farming and so on.

you would be surprised how many would stop if it gets out there is a harsh penalty.

that many people buy because there are zero repercussions. you announce it, you start it, and word gets around.... your 20-40% dries up real fast

no one wants to lose their hard work. they wouldnt lose that many subscribers, thats just being alarmist. people arent that stupid, just that lazy....

[ICountFrom0]

Two changes
1. Rightclick report, on the bots THEMSEVLES, not just in chat, (both, and in the adventuers in zone list) that goes right to the special team.
2. Increasing the special team to enough people to actually handle it. (40 people instead of 4)

[Darthgummibear]

banning the bots is a lesson in futility. the money is there, they will just make more.

hard ban the people buying the gil.. their market dries up, less bots.

pushing SE to deal with the bots will never make them go away. push SE to deal with the real issue, which are the people giving the bots a market in the first place. the bots are just taking advantage of a market, no market.. fewer bots... period.

the same issue with society... dont fix the problem.. fix the symptoms. if society was committed to actually fixing the problem instead of applying bandaids, things would be better.

What they need is an actual GM for each world to investigate and boot these things on the spot.

[ICountFrom0]

What they need is an actual GM for each world to investigate and boot these things on the spot.

GM's are not allowed to touch bots, they get fired if they so much as intentionally enter a room where a bot is.
It's not thier job, it's the special team's job, and if they overstep, they get in trouble.

We have to live with that, thus making suggestions ot make the special team actually USEFUL.

[KageTokage]

The GMs will ban bots if they can find a valid loophole, like them causing obstruction of gameplay due to them interfering with quest progression.

I feel like most of the problems just boil down to SE being so heavily reliant on the puny STF team when typical MMOs tend to have extensive enforcement teams dedicated to handling individual servers or clusters.

[Raoabolic]

banning the bots is a lesson in futility. the money is there, they will just make more.

hard ban the people buying the gil.. their market dries up, less bots.

pushing SE to deal with the bots will never make them go away. push SE to deal with the real issue, which are the people giving the bots a market in the first place. the bots are just taking advantage of a market, no market.. fewer bots... period.

the same issue with society... dont fix the problem.. fix the symptoms. if society was committed to actually fixing the problem instead of applying bandaids, things would be better.

Listen, those bots paid for an account and subscription time (but don't ask where they got the cash for it!), they have a right to do whatever they want and no company worth their salt is going to ban the whales, lol. Every MMO goes through this and to think that SE is going to put long term value over quick profits seems silly. Modern companies are short sighted and even though the golden goose makes really good eggs, I bet some golden duck meat sells for a lot more!