BOTS ARE IN THE WALLS!!!

[Allmightpool]

What is going on, that SE would allow this.

I watched a group of two lalafell bots run out from inside a wall in coerthas after pulling two muddy puppies into a wall from an MSQ quest.

I have seen bots inside walls at Uldah GC, and under floors walking sands.

They are going through MSQ in the walls and under the ground.

If SE doesn't want to fix, can we all do this, they also teleport automatically.

Can we get the exploit public please.

[Jagick]

It's been going on for years. All you can do is report them when you see them.

[Mimilu]

It's been going on for years. All you can do is report them when you see them.

It would be nice if they made the process of reporting botting/cheating easier like they did with RMT-advertising. ((´д｀))

[Reap00]

It's been going on for years. All you can do is report them when you see them.

It will always happen. The people that have bots make money. All this world is focused on is making money. Nothing else matters. SE can ban them endlessly and the cycle will continue. Get used to it. It will NEVER go away.

[UkcsAlias]

SE can ban them endlessly and the cycle will continue. Get used to it. It will NEVER go away.

There are many things that can be done against it. If i see how long advertisers can stay it is a clear indication that there simply is a severe lack of checking to begin with. Spamming the advertisement a few times should be more than enough to indicate a red flag. And sure, if those advertisers then suddently need to act like a player, this also increases the costs as code to actively play the game costs a lot more power than just idling in a main city.

Its not always about instantly stopping them, raising their costs is generaly far more effective. Since if the rmt price becomes too high, people wont pay for that either. This is still the most effective way to disrupt these.

And thats why ingame reporting is such important tool. Even though currently SE barely uses this information (too many bots just spam a message in the NN and never do anything else. A message that for the past month has never changed). SE shows clear signs of lazyness, and yes, then bots become excessive. Runescape used to be plagued with bots as well. until at some point the dev simply used pattern detection to detect the bots. Causing a massive banwave and reduced botting for a quite long time. Even if the bots are based on private code, they are very likely to show patterns. This is info that is very well usable and quite easy to detect. Each hotspot node for a bot only needs to check players inside that zone, and based on timestamp patterns, you can generaly detect which players are very likely to be bots as they are very consistent in timing (and note, if the botter has to slow down the bot, that means the costs already increase). And those hotspots that you check are very hard to identify on the botter side (since its not 1 zone that detected them, but many). Forcing complete randomness on their side, and this is very hard to do efficiently.

[Darthgummibear]

It will always happen. The people that have bots make money. All this world is focused on is making money. Nothing else matters. SE can ban them endlessly and the cycle will continue. Get used to it. It will NEVER go away.

This kind of defeatist attitude is destroying society.

[Kes13a]

This kind of defeatist attitude is destroying society.

banning the bots is a lesson in futility. the money is there, they will just make more.

hard ban the people buying the gil.. their market dries up, less bots.

pushing SE to deal with the bots will never make them go away. push SE to deal with the real issue, which are the people giving the bots a market in the first place. the bots are just taking advantage of a market, no market.. fewer bots... period.

the same issue with society... dont fix the problem.. fix the symptoms. if society was committed to actually fixing the problem instead of applying bandaids, things would be better.

[Darthgummibear]

banning the bots is a lesson in futility. the money is there, they will just make more.

hard ban the people buying the gil.. their market dries up, less bots.

pushing SE to deal with the bots will never make them go away. push SE to deal with the real issue, which are the people giving the bots a market in the first place. the bots are just taking advantage of a market, no market.. fewer bots... period.

the same issue with society... dont fix the problem.. fix the symptoms. if society was committed to actually fixing the problem instead of applying bandaids, things would be better.

What they need is an actual GM for each world to investigate and boot these things on the spot.

[Raoabolic]

banning the bots is a lesson in futility. the money is there, they will just make more.

hard ban the people buying the gil.. their market dries up, less bots.

pushing SE to deal with the bots will never make them go away. push SE to deal with the real issue, which are the people giving the bots a market in the first place. the bots are just taking advantage of a market, no market.. fewer bots... period.

the same issue with society... dont fix the problem.. fix the symptoms. if society was committed to actually fixing the problem instead of applying bandaids, things would be better.

Listen, those bots paid for an account and subscription time (but don't ask where they got the cash for it!), they have a right to do whatever they want and no company worth their salt is going to ban the whales, lol. Every MMO goes through this and to think that SE is going to put long term value over quick profits seems silly. Modern companies are short sighted and even though the golden goose makes really good eggs, I bet some golden duck meat sells for a lot more!

[ICountFrom0]

You can't report it in game, remember that.

You have to use the special task force system on the website.

In game report, useless.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/c...382&la=1&fty=2

Goodluck