Glamour restrictions: a hinderance to creativity

[Atelier-Bagur]

Pretty sure reasons are the same ol reasons Yoshida likes to give. Waaah to hard. Waaah no time. Waaah no help. And yes I can believe Ivalice sets still aren't dyable. :/

Not necessarily too hard, no time. Its more so that the team has a plethora of other things to worry about with making new content and managing priority on a lot of things. Believe me, I would kill for a free glam system or many other features but as someone who's researched on how game design works, shit is never that easy.

[Deveryn]

If they want to have certain jobs have a certain style, that's up to them. I don't see them going back to change things at any point because that requires going back over every single piece of gear.

[Gemina]

This topic has been probably covered a million times. I just wanted to share a glamour I would love to make if we were allowed more creativity:



What do you guys think? (I hope the picture works)

There is nothing here that speaks creativity. If you could wear these options on the job of your choice, I wouldn't even be able to tell you were using hacks, or restrictions were lifted on some gear. Nothing about you stands out from any other FFXIV player wanting the same things you do.

Now, let's take note of a player who will catch mine or your attention in the circle of confinement before a duty commences. That player has made themselves stand out, using the CURRENT options available to them. You might have even witnessed a comment/compliment or two in these scenarios. You also typically don't see those comments handed out to someone in a pig suit or bikini. Those comments usually go to those with artistic and creative qualities when choosing their glamours.

The current glamour system does not impede your ability to create awesome outfits and glamour plates. And while a case can be made that creative players would have even more to work with if there were less restrictions, the fact of the matter is that what separates them from players like yourself is they will work with what they have. They also tend to realize that less restrictions doesn't equal more options. That happens when they release new gear.

[Seger]

I feel restrictions are unnecessary. If people wish to wear only certain outfits, they can restrict themselves. Otherwise, let others wear whatever items they wish to wear.

Exactly!

[Silverbane]

I think it is appropriate that a character can only wear, or appear to wear, gear the character has earned the ability to wear.

However, I believe it reasonable for a character to wear gear of a class and level the character has achieved even when the character is not currently acting in that class. For example, my character who has achieved L90 in Sage, Dancer, Warrior, Summoner, and Reaper, when operating as a level 60 Bard, would be allowed to wear any combination of gear for those jobs that was level 60 or below.

This way, when you saw someone wearing, say, Sage-only gear, you'd know they could operate as a Sage of at least that level, even if they currently weren't at that moment.

The advantage to players is that they can maintain a particular style for a character regardless of what job the character was currently playing, and that style can be picked from among all the gear in the game, if they are willing to do the work.

The advantage to SE is that this provides a motive for players to level (and hopefully learn) other jobs; we all know how powerful a motive getting the right look can be.

[Raikai]

The art direction in the game values theme much more than armor weight, so and so that it's actually uncommon for a set to actually have all 3 armor weights to match. ARR probably had that more common, but ever since HW, the overall silhouette caters to the theme of the place it came from.

Idk why people keep the "armor weight and silhouette should be preserved" argument when it objectively doesn't hold.

Also... It's beyond me why some people think that limitations = more creativity. It would be true in real life when you literally can think about countless options on, for example, how to make a cellphone stand yourself when you can't buy one. This is a game, where we get limitations of limitations (since we can't actually design our own stuff).

[Lunalepsy]

2B+Bodice—that is all I need.

[LeonKeyh]

Restrictions are just as important as freedom for creativity. It opens the possibility for "work arounds" and other creative solutions.

I get it, I do. Some of the "rules" surrounding glamor are a bit silly, especially given the huge amount of fashion-only equipment at this point. Honestly, the glam you posted is fairly similar to stuff we've seen.

[Osteichthyes]

The only things that should be restricted in my opinion are artefact sets since several of these have lore based implications. But outside of that, let the glams be free.

[Theox]

Only in ffxiv will people defend limitations and say they're actually good for the game. Mental institution.