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    Quote Originally Posted by Rulakir View Post
    It was a meager attempt to inject nuance after 6.0 was completely lacking in it.
    Emphasis on the fact that the Omega quest just came out now. I'm not sure we know when it was written, but the February Q&A made it quite obvious the devs had gotten significant pushback about Venat (and even came across as a little defensive...?). Might be an attempt to mend things. IMO it was good, but nowhere near enough.

    And yeah good post, it was my reaction to everything during and after Elpis when I first went through the MSQ early December... Very real discomfort with what the plot was, to me, obviously trying to push about Venat (and Hermes). It isn't morally grey when Venat is the only one hosting her own pity party by her lonesome, telling you what she did was cruel – and even that could be interpreted as merely apologizing to the Sundered for the living conditions she inflicted on them, not to her own people for literally erasing their entire identity and culture – but have the rest of the characters pat her on the back and the plot very heavily imply her way was the only way out, by throwing at the wall everything that would stick: Ancients not being able to directly interact with Dynamis, Dynamis (and astronomy??) being an apparently very niche topic in a society of scholars, the Ancients-Plenty parallel that honestly makes me, queen of procrastination, jealous of how lazy it is, their inability to Forge Ahead™ and accept Suffering™, apparently nobody ever investigating the Elpis incident or Hermes's magical memory wiping device that affected one of the most important government officials on the entire planet, Venat's fear of nobody believing her, her fear of people panicking, her fear of Hermes blowing up, the implied justification of all those fears as Right because she was Azem and thus well traveled and experienced like no one else, the closed time loop justification (even though we just had a story that resulted in a separate timeline)...

    It's just, wow. Please stop! PLEASE! I GET IT! I'M FORGING AHEAD AS WE SPEAK, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE!
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    Last edited by Teraq; 07-23-2022 at 03:36 AM. Reason: oops sorry I forgot some! I wouldn't want to downplay this brilliant plot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraq View Post
    her fear of nobody believing her, her fear of people panicking, her fear of Hermes blowing up
    Seeing a lot of fear here, it's almost like that was her driving motivation!

    I would pay to see Hermes blow up though, literally. Also, yeah, it's quite convenient that she only acknowledges her sins to the people that she made incapable of remembering them. She noped out before Emet could tear her a new one, not that the writers would actually have him act in character when it comes to her.
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    Last edited by Rulakir; 07-23-2022 at 03:40 AM.

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    Player SentioftheHoukai's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rulakir View Post
    Both of y'all are way too relevant.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teraq View Post
    Both of y'all are way too relevant. REMIX
    One more point to add to all this, the Warrior of Light is ostensibly the author of the newly implemented "Unending Codex". Specifically, lore-wise its a book/diary we're writing at the urging of our very own Tataru Taru recording all the notables and deeds of the Star that is Eitherys (not that the friendly neighborhood WoL would ever let their precious Sundered call it that!).

    Anyway, you know what they say. "History is written by the victors."

    We are the victors of this conflict, the Ancients are the ultimate losers. Considering some of the things stated in said Codex (Hydaelyn being the Will of the Star, Hydaelyn being the one who forestalled the Final Days, Venat being a "woman who loved all life everywhere", etc.) its abundantly clear how we're intended to feel about her, in the end. We, the Warrior of Light, Saviour of the Star, Protagonist-kun of this MMORPG are literally writing the Ancients and their deeds out of Eitherys' history.

    So much for all of our broken promises of "Remembering them. Remembering that they once lived." For a supreme deity that supposedly didn't consider herself a goddess, Hydaelyn's PR department sure is profiting off the royalties of the Mythos the Sundered built off of her. Even after her very death, we retain every Blessing she ever gave us. Denying all logic and lore in game. Eitherys' denizens have no respect for those who came before, how can they be trusted with the fates and welfare of those who come after?
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    Last edited by SentioftheHoukai; 07-23-2022 at 03:44 PM. Reason: Perfection is beyond us, but we can yet be better.