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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    ROFLMAO!

    Zepla has thousands of thirsty simps paying her sub. Her account was never in danger of lapsing.

    Try again.
    Yet she was not able to log in to play the game for several weeks after she and her fiancée fled the Ukraine. All they had with them was a few changes of clothing and their pets. It took a while for her to find temporary housing and get set back up to play the game. Being an American citizen also offered her advantages.

    Without demolition being suspended, she might have lost her house in game because regardless of the state of her subscription, there was a long period that she could not log in to reset the demo timer.

    What about those Ukrainian citizens that don't have the advantages that a Zepla has? What about other EU residents that have had their livelihoods removed or endangered because of industry and supply line disruptions caused by the war? Do we not care about them because they're not some hotshot FFXIV streamer?
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    This is still a finite and fixed amount of houses and it would be only a temporary fix. Unless they move away from a fixed and finite amount of houses, the same problem will occur again and players who join in the future would not have access to houses.

    If they maintain the same flawed and static system, at minimum auto demolition has to be re-enabled . It wouldn’t answer all the needs but it would allow some active players to get a house. I have a house now and I don’t give a damn about what would happen to it if I stop subbing for whatever reason and I think it’s fair that the plot can go to someone actively playing - it’s just a pixel house that has no use outside the game. Auto-demolition hasn’t been used for a long time now and I am pretty sure that there would be a good number of plots freed up by re-enabling it.
    "Adding 50 wards is temporary, so let's do something that'll be even more temporary."

    Auto-demolition isn't going to free nearly as many houses as you seem to think it will.


    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    ROFLMAO!

    Zepla has thousands of thirsty simps paying her sub. Her account was never in danger of lapsing.

    Try again.
    Who is Zepla? O.o
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts View Post
    Who is Zepla? O.o
    She is a FFXIV streamer.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 07-22-2022 at 01:11 AM.

  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts View Post
    "Adding 50 wards is temporary, so let's do something that'll be even more temporary."

    Auto-demolition isn't going to free nearly as many houses as you seem to think it will.
    Auto-demolition is already in the game and has been thoroughly QA tested before. It's almost trivial to turn it back on as a temporary fix to the issue and would only take a short maintenance on housing areas for a few hours.
    Turn back on Auto-demolition for now, add new worlds next month for the short term, start development on a long term fix for later, no long term fix is going to appear for the next 2+ years at least since nothing is on the roadmap till 7.0 and the instanced housing everyone says they want is a major feature that would need to be developed from the ground up.
    A previous post in this same thread also showed that the last time it was turned on after Covid, there was between 200 to 1,000 houses freed up for sale per server. That's not insignificant and gives the people trying every single lottery a significant chance at getting a house.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts View Post
    Who is Zepla? O.o
    A fairly big FFXIV centric streamer/content creator. Zepla HQ
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    ... no long term fix is going to appear for the next 2+ years at least since nothing is on the roadmap ...
    You haven't heard of Sanctuary Islands?
    Or are you just sure, without knowing the details of what Sanctuary Islands are, that they won't satisfy most of the unmet demand for "housing"?
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    You haven't heard of Sanctuary Islands?
    Or are you just sure, without knowing the details of what Sanctuary Islands are, that they won't satisfy most of the unmet demand for "housing"?
    I am certain that Island Sanctuaries will not fill the role of housing, since Yoshi-P has said at multiple live letters to temper your expectations and that it is explicitly not housing.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    I am certain that Island Sanctuaries will not fill the role of housing, since Yoshi-P has said at multiple live letters to temper your expectations and that it is explicitly not housing.
    The issue isn't whether Sanctuaries are "housing," since apartments are housing and yet don't seem to satisfy the "unmet demand for 'housing'." (I put "housing" in quotes for a reason.)

    The issue is, why do so many people desire "housing," and can Sanctuaries satisfy that desire?
    So what, precisely, do you think Sanctuaries lack that would make them unable to do so?

    Of course, some people hate SE so much, are so butt-hurt, that nothing will ever placate them.
    Those people will never be part of any constructive conversation.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    The issue isn't whether Sanctuaries are "housing," since apartments are housing and yet don't seem to satisfy the "unmet demand for 'housing'." (I put "housing" in quotes for a reason.)

    The issue is, why do so many people desire "housing," and can Sanctuaries satisfy that desire?
    So what, precisely, do you think Sanctuaries lack that would make them unable to do so?

    Of course, some people hate SE so much, are so butt-hurt, that nothing will ever placate them.
    Those people will never be part of any constructive conversation.
    Apartments are not a substitute for housing features and there are going to be minimal housing features in the Island Sanctuaries, as stated by the developers in the live letter.
    Let's get back on focus here, we're talking about the auto-demolition feature, not whatever grievance it is you're trying to air about the community in this unconstructive manner.
    It's an easy fix that has been shown to add between 200-1,000 houses per server back to the market for active players to bid on, which goes a long way in dealing with the current squeeze on housing.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Yet she was not able to log in to play the game for several weeks after she and her fiancée fled the Ukraine. All they had with them was a few changes of clothing and their pets. It took a while for her to find temporary housing and get set back up to play the game. Being an American citizen also offered her advantages.

    Without demolition being suspended, she might have lost her house in game because regardless of the state of her subscription, there was a long period that she could not log in to reset the demo timer.

    What about those Ukrainian citizens that don't have the advantages that a Zepla has? What about other EU residents that have had their livelihoods removed or endangered because of industry and supply line disruptions caused by the war? Do we not care about them because they're not some hotshot FFXIV streamer?
    What about all the people that have individual emergencies outside of this war that lose their houses?

    I lost my house last time auto-demolition was enabled because my mother was fighting cancer and passed away. At the time, I think it was fair because I was not using the house.

    You can't make everyone happy.
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