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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    "You cannot punish those in the Now, for following the rules of the Past."
    Yet IRL this happens A LOT! How often do social media messages get removed because the platform suddenly decides to change oppinion? People sometimes even get banned for old content. Content that originaly was no issue.

    Hoarding houses without any tax might initialy have been fine, but now you might have to pay monthy to the government for that. Yet at that point you didnt do anything wrong. The government still changed it to make the housing market more fair and promote those hoarders to at least make the rent low enough or otherwise they wont generate profit (too high rent and no one will rent, resulting in a loss). The values of tax can even adjust.

    Or lets take a bitcoin as an example. Governments have changed the category of its value several times (cash, banked money, stock value), with greatly diffirent numbers of tax attached to them (cash often having 0%).

    Or what about a car. Your perfectly fine 30s car is not legal to drive on roads even if it would be in the same quality as it would have been in the 30s. Many parts had to be added in order to make it road legal. Which costs money to apply.

    Punishing is a very viable option to do. IRL this happens already. The problem is the scale of punishing though. Instantly taking away 7 houses when someone owns 8 is quite harsh and not realy a good idea. But adding a tax to maintain the 7 extra houses is something that would be perfectly normal IRL (and this scale can be steep). As this will push those players towards either maintaining income, or let those players decide to expire a few of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    Yet IRL this happens A LOT! How often do social media messages get removed because the platform suddenly decides to change oppinion? People sometimes even get banned for old content. Content that originaly was no issue.

    Hoarding houses without any tax might initialy have been fine, but now you might have to pay monthy to the government for that. Yet at that point you didnt do anything wrong. The government still changed it to make the housing market more fair and promote those hoarders to at least make the rent low enough or otherwise they wont generate profit (too high rent and no one will rent, resulting in a loss). The values of tax can even adjust.

    Or lets take a bitcoin as an example. Governments have changed the category of its value several times (cash, banked money, stock value), with greatly diffirent numbers of tax attached to them (cash often having 0%).

    Or what about a car. Your perfectly fine 30s car is not legal to drive on roads even if it would be in the same quality as it would have been in the 30s. Many parts had to be added in order to make it road legal. Which costs money to apply.

    Punishing is a very viable option to do. IRL this happens already. The problem is the scale of punishing though. Instantly taking away 7 houses when someone owns 8 is quite harsh and not realy a good idea. But adding a tax to maintain the 7 extra houses is something that would be perfectly normal IRL (and this scale can be steep). As this will push those players towards either maintaining income, or let those players decide to expire a few of them.
    Social media: Everythings public domain and often politics and "cancel culture" rules that section. While yes, it certainly happens, it really shouldn't.. The statement I made more-so pertained directly to SE, not a general blanket statement. There'll obviously be exceptions.

    The only reason that statement works is because SE has said they aren't going to touch them. To go back on their word would cost a lot more than a few subs, I'll wager.

    Car: That issue stems mostly from updated rules and regulations about vehicle safety, not really comparable to the hoarding. I can see where the example works, but only barely.

    Comparing IRL with Taxes and such to a Game that is meant to be played for FUN first and foremost is.. A risky venture. Adding a "Tax" to the hoarders wouldn't really do much as they (probably, if not definitely) are sitting on quite a large pile of gil. So they could weather it almost indefinitely. Or piss the hoarders off to such an extent SE loses their guaranteed sub money (which isn't much. But it's SE we're talking about..) Sure, you open up the plots for others to use. But SE has lost guaranteed income.

    Remember. The Hoarders pay every month and actively show up to keep their houses. To make them give up one of their plots (and risk pissing them off, causing them to leave) and let someone else have it who may leave in a month or two is.. Well, it's a risk that I don't think many companies would go for.
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