Time to Restart Housing Demolition

[Silverbane]

... this is still an active conflict and that people with FFXIV accounts are still being effected by it.

Are they? Name three people with FFXIV accounts and an FFXIV house that are currently being prevented from logging on and visiting their house by the war in the Ukraine. I'll wait.

This reminds me of the white "BLM activists" who were trashing Black-owned businesses, assaulting Black police officers, and enacting policies that led to higher crime rates in Black neighborhoods.

We need a term for this use by "activists" of other people's tragedies to advance the activists' personal agenda -- an agenda that the real victims may either not give a damn about or even be opposed to. "Victimhood appropriation" perhaps?

It's not "empathy," it's exploitation, and it should disgust us all.

[Kenky]

Are they? Name three people with FFXIV accounts and an FFXIV house that are currently being prevented from logging on and visiting their house by the war in the Ukraine. I'll wait.

It's not "empathy," it's exploitation, and it should disgust us all.

This. Is most possibly. The worst take I've seen when disaster is involved.

Really? You want actual proof that people cannot log in when they are being evacuated out of the country to stay in literal tents with nothing much else (Exception being food & water, because those are supplied. But not found in the tents themselves!) just to satisfy your stance? (There are reports of them also living on unused military bases in modified Cargo Containers, but that's not really much of a step-up.)

Has it perhaps ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe.. You should show just a small drop of humanity? What if it was your country getting invaded? What if you had to leave your house and everything you own behind, out of fear of getting shot or shelled by artillery fire? Or what of the people having to evacuate in France, Spain and now even the UK, thanks to spreading Wildfires? Sure, it might not be affecting YOU. But that doesn't mean you get to downplay it.

Sure, their virtual house isn't very important when things like that are taken into account, plus XIVs Ukraine population maybe being possibly below 1% of its total EU playerbase (Region, not actually part of the European Union. France & Spain probably equating to closer to 4% maybe 5%. The UK being similar) but if you can only get a house at the expense of another? And are willing to take that?

You need to do some reflection. Like some seriously DEEP reflection. Because I doubt it's a human looking back at you.

Fix the Supply. Not be at the throat of others over a delusional and Manufactured demand.

[Silverbane]

Really? You want actual proof that people cannot log in when they are being evacuated out of the country to stay in literal tents with nothing much else

No, I want evidence the ANY of them are FFXIV subscribers who have a house in the game. The only Ukrainian player anyone has brought up is back streaming the game.

Your supposed potential "victims" of the resumption of housing recycling is a hoax made up by people, like you, who hate FFXIV's housing system. There is no evidence, anywhere, that any FFXIV players in the Ukraine are unable to login often enough to keep there house -- assuming they even have one.

As I wrote before, in the part of my post you stealthily edited out:

We need a term for this use by "activists" of other people's tragedies to advance the activists' personal agenda -- an agenda that the real victims [if any] may either not give a damn about or even be opposed to. "Victimhood appropriation" perhaps?

It's not "empathy," it's exploitation, and it should disgust us all.

You need to do some reflection.

You need to stop manufacturing victims that don't exist just to push your agenda.

[Kenky]

No, I want evidence the ANY of them are FFXIV subscribers who have a house in the game. The only Ukrainian player anyone has brought up is back streaming the game.

You need to stop manufacturing victims that don't exist just to push your agenda.

Ah, yes. Out of hundreds, if not thousands of refugees that nobody truly knows what they do in their free time (and likely nobodys about to ask them. Kind of pointless at present) there's ONE person who is back to streaming, as they got lucky and able to not be in a Refugee camp.

Well, since that one singular person is okay, that means everything's all daijobu and no longer need to empathize. Dear god, you are sounding less and less like a human being as you continue to post. To the point I'm even hesitating to consider you "Human" with your outright lack of care.

And I'm not "manufacturing victims that don't exist". I'm pointing out that, if there -were- a large population of Ukraine players that could no longer get their house and auto-demo was turned on. That would release.. What, a couple of houses? Maybe up to half a ward at most? Only on EU servers and your chances are still next to zero, as you'd have to wait upwards of two, if not three months for them to even show up on the Lottery list, then another 2+ weeks for you to be told no.

Stop gunning for houses. Stop gunning for people owning said houses. Push for fairness for all, or shut up. Instanced Housing would fix this. I've already gone on record to say it's unlikely to occur, given SE is at the wheel and I can guarantee most people know SE isn't a charity. They won't put tons of effort into something they know won't pay off in the long-term. That is sadly one of the downsides of Instanced Housing.

With no chance of losing your house, people no longer need to keep their subs running / entering the game to up the player count. Which means during lulls, SEs bottom line will tank. As a company, they want to avoid that. Which makes somewhat sense that they are continuing to put resources into expanding the Wards, rather than going Instanced. But there's only so many Wards they can make before they literally hit a brick wall. Island Sanctuaries, despite it having next to nothing to do with Housing, I feel comes as a 'test' of sorts. See how much it's used and how long it keeps players engaged.

Who knows? If Sanctuaries do well enough, they could add onto the Island Sanctuaries by allowing the players to build a player home -on- said island. (And that comes with all of the benefits of owning said house.) as they could tie it into a capstone quest of some sort. It'd allow everyone the ability to benefit from housing (Provided they complete the quest-chain) and Ward-Houses keep their "neighborhood appeal". They could easily do this with apartments too, but I feel I'm already a tad too wishful.

[Silverbane]

Stop gunning for houses. Stop gunning for people owning said houses. Push for fairness for all, or shut up. Instanced Housing would fix this.

You apparently don't even understand what the word "fairness" means.
Here's a clue: it doesn't mean everyone gets a trophy, or a house in FFXIV.

[Dionysius]

Instanced Housing would fix this

Limiting housing helped with the server population evenly distributed for most. Why take that balance away?

[george357]

so many angry demanding karens they will restart when their ready and not because some karens started screaming at them.

[Eraden]

Are they? Name three people with FFXIV accounts and an FFXIV house that are currently being prevented from logging on and visiting their house by the war in the Ukraine. I'll wait.

This reminds me of the white "BLM activists" who were trashing Black-owned businesses, assaulting Black police officers, and enacting policies that led to higher crime rates in Black neighborhoods.

We need a term for this use by "activists" of other people's tragedies to advance the activists' personal agenda -- an agenda that the real victims may either not give a damn about or even be opposed to. "Victimhood appropriation" perhaps?

It's not "empathy," it's exploitation, and it should disgust us all.

You completely ignored the second part of my post. The part where I said that houses freed up by turning demolition back on, would be a negligible input compared to the total demand. I would like to repeat once more, just in case you had accidentally missed that second part, the only way to fix this problem and make adequate housing available to all players is to make a LOT more wards or better apartments or instanced houses or some combination of the three. There is no other way of solving this issue so that all players get a house. Pinning hopes on the smattering of houses that would be freed up by turning demolition back on, is a fool's game at best.

[Silverbane]

You completely ignored the second part of my post. The part where I said that houses freed up by turning demolition back on, would be a negligible input compared to the total demand.

That's because a previous post on that subject, by another poster, which post showed the number of houses reclaimed the last time housing reclamation was turned back on, proves you wrong.

It's a post dominated by a big picture showing the number of houses demolished on each world, so it shouldn't be hard for you to find.

[Eraden]

That's because a previous post on that subject, by another poster, which post showed the number of houses reclaimed the last time housing reclamation was turned back on, proves you wrong.

It's a post dominated by a big picture showing the number of houses demolished on each world, so it shouldn't be hard for you to find.

There are not thousands of houses that would be released if demolition was reinstated. On my world alone, that is how many would be required to fill demand. I simply do not understand how you can be so obtuse about this. You merely have to look at the number of participants in the Lottery to realize that if every single house was demolished, ALL of them, demand would still probably not be met.