Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[SturmChurro]

Now maybe I am crazy.. but did they change and NERF The Stone Vigil? I haven't done this dungeon in a LONG time, but I swear to God it was different. I really need to start reading patch notes more often or something. Lol!

[Rannie]

Now maybe I am crazy.. but did they change and NERF The Stone Vigil? I haven't done this dungeon in a LONG time, but I swear to God it was different. I really need to start reading patch notes more often or something. Lol!

Go try the other dungeons for 2.0's msq actually go do them with Duty Support aka the low level trusts (yes trust and not the squadrons)

[Erinellza]

Y'all. Why is the Mothercrystal trial always pure suffering? D: Is it a Chaos issue or is it like this on other DCs too? Everytime I get it on my RDM main I want to scream because I know people will die every 10 seconds and I will be CONSTANTLY out of MP because I have to Verraise everyone. We only had 1 first timer btw. I just don't get it, it's the easiest trial in EW, people can even practice it with Trust! I desperately need more ways to recover MP on Red Mage, Lucid is always on cooldown. :')

[GeminiReed]

Now maybe I am crazy.. but did they change and NERF The Stone Vigil? I haven't done this dungeon in a LONG time, but I swear to God it was different. I really need to start reading patch notes more often or something. Lol!

It's definitely different. The fight with the canons was replaced with much more relevant mechanics IMO. They did dial way back on the trash which is unfortunate. That dungeon was the Tank come to Hydaelyn moment because it was so easy to overpull in a few spots and a very pointed reminder to keep you gear up to date (guilty!).

[Deveryn]

Y'all. Why is the Mothercrystal trial always pure suffering? D: Is it a Chaos issue or is it like this on other DCs too? Everytime I get it on my RDM main I want to scream because I know people will die every 10 seconds and I will be CONSTANTLY out of MP because I have to Verraise everyone. We only had 1 first timer btw. I just don't get it, it's the easiest trial in EW, people can even practice it with Trust! I desperately need more ways to recover MP on Red Mage, Lucid is always on cooldown. :')

You're not alone. It's like that on Primal too. (I think all the NA DCs are equally inept.) I've explained the job change mechanics and people are still just -dErP- I stopped tempting fate with Trial roulette because of this.

[Deveryn]

Endsinger's Aria: Myself (SMN) and a DRK survive the last Fatalism. I pick up a healer and just mash and pray. Beat enrage. People are so ungrateful.

[NekoMataMata]

It's definitely different. The fight with the canons was replaced with much more relevant mechanics IMO. They did dial way back on the trash which is unfortunate. That dungeon was the Tank come to Hydaelyn moment because it was so easy to overpull in a few spots and a very pointed reminder to keep you gear up to date (guilty!).

The cannons were only ever in the hard version of the dungeon and they're still there(got it in roulette last weekish). It's really easy due to ilvl creep and the fact that it's an optional dungeon. For the boss with the cannons I've seen groups just eat the stun and keep going, ignoring the mechanic completely.

Regular Stone Vigil was a massive noob trap though. You'd almost always run into a sprout healer/tank and they'd overpull/wipe. The first wide open room after around 6ish mobs(and getting hit by fire in the hallway once) was packed with at least 9ish mobs on its own and there wasn't really any way around it. I really think they overnerfed that pull, since it's now 3 mobs in the entire room(it's a big room, 6 would've been fine). Also miss the older versions of the bosses, especially the last one since it takes longer now due to it always becoming invun 4 times to do 4 flight attacks on the part. Think it used to only do that twice before.

Y'all. Why is the Mothercrystal trial always pure suffering? D: Is it a Chaos issue or is it like this on other DCs too? Everytime I get it on my RDM main I want to scream because I know people will die every 10 seconds and I will be CONSTANTLY out of MP because I have to Verraise everyone. We only had 1 first timer btw. I just don't get it, it's the easiest trial in EW, people can even practice it with Trust! I desperately need more ways to recover MP on Red Mage, Lucid is always on cooldown. :')

As someone that did all of EW outside of Zodiark with trusts, I think the answer would surprise you. Trusts actually make fights easier. Outside of any spread markers you can mindlessly follow the npcs to get through mechanics without having any idea on what you're doing. So then later if you get that duty through roulette, you're usually clueless unless you checked a guide(or you decided to actually look for the cues as you did them with trusts instead of just following the npcs). I had a bit of a learning period after I finished MSQ and started redoing content with actual players.

[Lustre]

Y'all. Why is the Mothercrystal trial always pure suffering? D: Is it a Chaos issue or is it like this on other DCs too? Everytime I get it on my RDM main I want to scream because I know people will die every 10 seconds and I will be CONSTANTLY out of MP because I have to Verraise everyone. We only had 1 first timer btw. I just don't get it, it's the easiest trial in EW, people can even practice it with Trust! I desperately need more ways to recover MP on Red Mage, Lucid is always on cooldown. :')

Seems like a bunch of people did it one time in trust, didnt learn anything and now have it in roulette

[SnowVix]

The cannons were only ever in the hard version of the dungeon and they're still there(got it in roulette last weekish). It's really easy due to ilvl creep and the fact that it's an optional dungeon. For the boss with the cannons I've seen groups just eat the stun and keep going, ignoring the mechanic completely

no, the original Koshchei fight had cannons. you used them to scare off Isgebind from firing off Rime Wreaths while you fight Koshchei.

[VictorSpoils]

-First and only tank duty was another Great Hunt EX where the healer (new and doing it for WT) struggled to get behind the bison and couldn't handle curing the burn DoTs. At the very least, they learned it could be done unsynced instead of queuing through DF.

Four more tank roulettes: 2 Praetorium, 1 Castrum, 1 Porta. No, MSQ Roulette wasn't checked by mistake. Dunno what formula is being used there but it's pretty bad.

Managed to DPS backfill another mostly-over Labyrinth though.

The cannons were only ever in the hard version of the dungeon and they're still there(got it in roulette last weekish). It's really easy due to ilvl creep and the fact that it's an optional dungeon. For the boss with the cannons I've seen groups just eat the stun and keep going, ignoring the mechanic completely.

Just got that and had four wipes because two people simply wouldn't use the cannons at all. That fight likely won't be adjusted either since the dungeon is optional.