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    whatinthe's Avatar
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    Saya Luna
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    Marilith
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    Dancer Lv 90

    Please Fix Paladin Cheese in Frontlines Onsal Hakair Map

    Consistently see paladins in groups of two using cover on each other and maybe guard / limit break when they run up to an objective. The paladin under cover cannot be damaged, so the capturing absolutely CANNOT BE STOPPED unless the team somehow takes out one paladin before he/she gets near the objective, or a monk, reaper, dancer uses limit break when the two paladins are already covering for one another. The paladins can just use cover again soon afterwards and try again. This is broken, makes the game not fun and infuriating to play against. PLEASE fix it
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    Gordon Geeko
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    Faerie
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    Yes it's a well-known issue there is literally a full thread on it a few posts below lol
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I guess having your own RPR/PLD group for tagging the points would be counter until they fix this. You can tag the point normally ahead of them and use RPR LB if they started before you and start capping.
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    Vitalic Oni
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Just remove PLD
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Why not just knock / draw the PLD away?
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    Genz Kawakami
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    Louisoix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    because it's supposed to be PvP, not a trash-quest "click on things to get xp"
    because only some jobs can do something against it
    and because those who want to play these jobs want to play these jobs, and not be the anti-exploit pawn
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    It's supposed to involve some level of strategy, not be an easy xp event. The solution is right there, but we're seeing people say jUsT rEmOvE PlD
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Why not just knock / draw the PLD away?
    Well, Deveryn, why not? Oh. I think I might need a bit of help from such expert as you are here...



    Any other smart ideas?
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    Xylira Mierqid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Why not just knock / draw the PLD away?
    You can't knock back or draw away the paladin if they have guard up, which they absolutely will be doing because that's how they give the person they're using guardian on immunity to CC. Yes, you can break guard with certain limit breaks, but that requires that you're on the right class for it at the time and have your limit break up. Even if you're lucky enough to be on the right class with your limit break available, it still requires two full GCD to break guard and then move the paladin away from the capper, which leaves virtually no time to do anything to interrupt the capper given that capping takes 5 seconds. That's not to say it's impossible to counter, I've done it before with help, it's just extremely difficult to pull off since you have to react immediately, in many cases before they even start capping.

    All SE needs to do is modify how guardian works. If they don't want to modify guardian to not also confer the CC immunity of guard, which arguably it shouldn't because nowhere in the tooltip does it say it will work this way, then a reasonable alternative would be to enhance guard breaking abilities to also break immunity from guardian.
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    It's not broken. Just play on the right classes, have your LBs ready and all the required spells off cooldown. /sarcasm
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