Mount Farming and the 99 Totem Issue

[Deveryn]

This is exactly what im referring to when I mention the community just refusing to acknowledge there is a problem.

You set the tone and it clearly wouldn't matter what anyone could say. I'm not defending it or denying a problem. You just have to do better than say get rid of it. Why should these items provided at no extra charge that do take some effort to put together (along with the fights that contain them) come at a lesser cost of time and effort?

Frankly, if optional content is a problem, it's more personal than design related. There will always be items that will require some level of effort. It's up to each person to decide whether or not something is worth doing. There are items I don't like to pursue and it's something I think about now and again. I recently made a decision to stop pursuing one item, but I'm not gonna make a show of it. I'm not here for the validation of my opinions.

[DrWho2010]

I was only interested in my Kamuy's. Suzaku took me 181 tries before I finally got her mount. Seiryu took me 118. I gave up on Zodiark after 108. I really don't want to waste anymore time on such tedious shit. Also, when will I be able to buy Zodiark's mount?

in most normal timed cases you can buy a mount with totems 2 patches after it's been released.
Zodiark/Hyaedalyn mounts released 6.0 - buy in 6.2
Endsinger mount released 6.1 - buy in 6.3
and so forth. the only exception is the trial from x.5 patch can be bought a bit quicker as it's the end of the expansion.

[Mosha]

My advice is just to wait to the ass end of the expansion and just slap them with big ilevels, that's what I do

[Equitable_Remedy]

The current system of acquiring 99 totems to purchase a mount from any of the EX trials is absolutely ridiculous and a clear indicator from SE that they do not care about your personal time.

Do you care about your personal time? I don't farm mounts. Why, you ask? Because I don't find it particularly fun, and it isn't worth my time. The fact of the matter is that lots of players do, in fact, grind 99 totems because they judge that it is worth their time. (And here's the secret - for those people, the fact that they'll do the grind and you won't is part of what makes it worth their time.)

tl;dr blaming SE for creating content that you chose to play is interesting.

[BristolRuss]

I mean the ability to buy the mount with 99 totems is something the community actually asked for. People wanted a guaranteed way to get the mount even if their luck was bad.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

I been saying this for a long time. I think 50 totems is more then fair for getting amount if the rng/roll wasn't on your side. 99 is WAY to many fights and by then you are so tired from that fight you never want to do it again. It's the total opposite of what they want. I get they do it to keep it "fresh" and keep people having that fight filled with people but 99 is way to much and actually has people deter that fight once done

[Moonfish]

Do you care about your personal time? I don't farm mounts. Why, you ask? Because I don't find it particularly fun, and it isn't worth my time. The fact of the matter is that lots of players do, in fact, grind 99 totems because they judge that it is worth their time. (And here's the secret - for those people, the fact that they'll do the grind and you won't is part of what makes it worth their time.)

tl;dr blaming SE for creating content that you chose to play is interesting.

Explain this. Who, in the history of the universe, has ever said that because Billy Bob won’t do a fight 99 times makes their own 99 fights more valuable?

Edit - and who has ever said they ENJOY doing the same fight 99 times? Because I have literally never encountered that person. The people doing the fights for the totem trade in have never said they’re glad they didn’t win the mount before they got 99 totems.

[Equitable_Remedy]

I been saying this for a long time. I think 50 totems is more then fair for getting amount if the rng/roll wasn't on your side.

"Fair" is the wrong metric here - this has nothing to do with justice or desert. If it isn't fun for you, just don't do it.

99 is WAY to many fights and by then you are so tired from that fight you never want to do it again. It's the total opposite of what they want.

I don't think that this is supported by evidence. There are seemingly plenty of people who do, in fact, grind out basically every mount a new time a fight comes out. Further, part of the reason why they do it is exactly because other people won't stick out the grind - those who do get to roll around in that new benz.

I'm not saying that the number should be 99 or 50 or 25 - I am saying is that that grind not being worth it for everyone is what makes it worth it for some. (For the record, I wouldn't do any grind beyond about 10, and even that's a grind that I'd only do for something that I really wanted. 20, 50, 99 - it's all the same to me as I'm not doing it in any case.)

[Vahlnir]

I think the highest I have ever gone (so far) toward getting a mount was 75 totems, and that was on Zurvan. Oof is all I have to say. I farmed that at the beginning of Stormblood, and even at max level he was fully capable of wiping a full group of people. Farming him was rough then. But yeah, I was fully expecting to have to go the full 99 at that point. It can be daunting. I wouldn't complain if they made the requirement 50 instead of 99 though.

[Equitable_Remedy]

Explain this. Who, in the history of the universe, has ever said that because Billy Bob won’t do a fight 99 times makes their own 99 fights more valuable?

You think that rarity doesn't drive people to get certain mounts/glams/drops/etc? I - disagree.

Being able to sit in Limsa/Orgrimmar/Qeynos/etc. with that mount that other people don't have if definitely part of the value of getting the mount in the first place.