I'm not paying $15 a month just to lose the lottery every time

[ShantiiElorei]

Fun fact, LOTRO's housing is neighbourhoods just like FFXIV. The only difference is that when one fills up, another one is automatically created. The downsides are that you have limited housing hooks and you can't place stuff freely, much less than what we have currently in our housing. SWTOR is instanced housing with a lot more space for things, which is nice.

Ah I didn't know about that limitation with LOTRO's housing. If it were a choice between more non-instanced wards being auto-created when one fills up but limited item placement, vs. instanced housing with FFXIV's current flexible item placement, I'd definitely prefer the latter. Enough wards for everyone who wants one to get a house in the current non-instanced districts would be amazing, but yeah I assume there is some technical limitation that has so far prevented that or they would've done it already. So at this point, if that can't be done, I'd happily take instanced housing. It's better than NO house.

I see these threads all the time, get an apartment and a fc room, is a lot you can do with them, and one day you might get lucky on house its what i did for years. Gardening also isn't as fun or good for gil as some people think.

But the fact is that some people just really want to be ABLE to garden, and decorate outdoors. Whether you personally find it fun or not. And you can't do either of those things in an apartment or an FC room (sure you can use the garden plots of your FC but you gotta share those with everyone else and often they are in use by others). Presumably you agree apartments/fc rooms aren't enough for some people since it sounds like you DID keep trying to get a house and eventually got one? It's just kinda...funny when people who already DO have a house tell those venting about not being able to get one that houses aren't that big of a deal/aren't that much better. If you really think that, sell your house so someone who does really want one can get it. XD

It's perfectly reasonable for people to want access to game systems that exist. Some care about it more than others, and it sucks that those who really care are still locked out because of limited availability.

And "one day you might get lucky" doesn't apply anymore because demolition is still deactivated, so once all current plots fill up (probably within the next bidding cycle or two), that's it, no more opportunities for anyone else. Ever. Unless they turn demolition back on, add more wards, or someone randomly decides to get rid of their own house (unlikely).

TESO housing makes FFXIV housing look terrible, too. Blended into actual game zones, not wards, you can buy every house in the game, each one is a unique structure, and a lot of the big houses are more legit like towns. Friends can visit, furniture can be floated and rotated any which way without shelf-floating tricks, furniture cap doubles when you are subbed, but doesn't penalize you when you are not. And they never demo.

Can everyone who wants one get a house in that game? Or is it limited like in FFXIV? I wonder how they pull that off...much smaller player base I assume?

[ShantiiElorei]

Maybe I've just been lucky, but every FC I've been in have had a house.
I've never felt the need to have one myself because of that.

I mean sure maybe some people are sad because their FC doesn't have a house, but I think the bigger issue, and the source of most of the complaints, is that people want a PERSONAL house because they want to be able to garden freely and decorate outdoors. My FC's house is a place I can visit sure, but it doesn't provide any of the things I actually want a house for. I want one I can decorate my own way, and gardening plots I can use to my heart's content without competing with a bunch of other people for the space. I just feel like a visitor in my FC house (yeah I can get a room, but again, no personal garden and no outdoor decor). It may not matter to some people, but some just really want to be able to do that stuff.

[Puksi]

Can everyone who wants one get a house in that game? Or is it limited like in FFXIV? I wonder how they pull that off...much smaller player base I assume?

A few of the large houses are locked behind zone achievements, but everyone can have every house. I think I'm up to 30 or 40 so far. I'm not sure about the comparisons of playerbase size, aside from TESO always being crowded everytime I play, and zones are always active. But considering their housing is all instanced, they could have peak WoW numbers and not have an issue.

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fext...Player+Housing Scroll down for a list of the houses and preview pictures. Their housing community seems pretty active and very enthusiastic.

I said in another thread a little while back, I take issues with some things in the game itself, but never in the worldbuilding, lore and housing.

[ShantiiElorei]

A few of the large houses are locked behind zone achievements, but everyone can have every house. I think I'm up to 30 or 40 so far. I'm not sure about the comparisons of playerbase size, aside from TESO always being crowded everytime I play, and zones are always active. But considering their housing is all instanced, they could have peak WoW numbers and not have an issue.

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fext...Player+Housing Scroll down for a list of the houses and preview pictures. Their housing community seems pretty active and very enthusiastic.

I said in another thread a little while back, I take issues with some things in the game itself, but never in the worldbuilding, lore and housing.

Ohhh I misunderstood! I thought it was non-instanced housing based on them being blended into actual game zones. That makes more sense then if they are still instanced.

[Puksi]

Oh, yeah, I meant they have no dedicated housing wards. You can see the houses in the zones, but "entering" them takes you to your own instance.

[Izar_Chillen]

SWTOR Strongholds are easy to get because apart from being instanced they want you to have a reason to buy their numerous cheap to expensive decorations packs from their cash shop which are almost always the better designed ones compared to the in game bought/rewards

[Rhea_]

I see these threads all the time, get an apartment and a fc room, is a lot you can do with them, and one day you might get lucky on house its what i did for years. Gardening also isn't as fun or good for gil as some people think.

You still miss out on some features with a apartment. It severely lacking, and is due an update.

To bad, Im here reading it because you posted it in a Public area
YOU CANT STOP ME >:-D

But I do question....because I personally dont understand it.
Why is Housing in FFXIV such a make or Break for some people? Only keeping a Sub ($15 a month) so you can keep your house/Get a house in a videogame
No shade and Im not trying to insult anybody, but is a virtual house really THAT important? Sure Id like one to if I could get the gil for one and not be poor, but Im not unmotivated to play the game over it.

IDK, its just weird to me.
But no, I can get behind how frustrating the process is as well. A lottery is a pretty dumb idea...

I haven’t personally had to go through lottery process but from what I hear it’s not good and many preferred the old click spam.

I have owned various plots over the years, even multiple plots when it was possible back in the day.

I rarely use my house since SHB but thanks to turned off demo on numerous occasions since covid started (understandably), I can’t even give up the house without losing out on some of my invested gil. Only solution for me right now is moving to new world (which I intend to).

FC house is different as they lock some features such as workshop behind it. I wish it would be available in a instance like squadrons in GC.

Another gripe is the lacking features for apartments, size and the missing ability to use outside furniture and cross-breeding.

Just want to point out I'm not sure how "join date" works, but it's not necessarily when the person started playing the game. I think it might be when they officially started using the forums or something. My date shows as Jan. 2022 but I've had this account since May 2015 as an example.

Join date means when they joined the forum. I just signed up but I’ve been around for 8 years.

[Shougun]

Sounds frustrating, yet with the placard system there were people staying up double digit hours to also get nothing. Which is much worse imo. Depending on server you'd also not get any house either as they may be all taken before you could spell kupo, here at least you have a chance.

Both are not great, having instanced housing that had the power of full houses would be nice ... WS, Rift, ESO, EQ, BDO.. etc.

Your horror story unfortunately is far less frightening, to me, than the placard ones though....of course it sucks still to have to deal with that

Hope Island Sanctuary will have strong homely vibes perhaps provide gardening results somehow, inn room features and in the future upgrade more and more to instance housing.

[Amelimie]

It's just kinda...funny when people who already DO have a house tell those venting about not being able to get one that houses aren't that big of a deal/aren't that much better. If you really think that, sell your house so someone who does really want one can get it. XD

It's perfectly reasonable for people to want access to game systems that exist. Some care about it more than others, and it sucks that those who really care are still locked out because of limited availability.

And "one day you might get lucky" doesn't apply anymore because demolition is still deactivated, so once all current plots fill up (probably within the next bidding cycle or two), that's it, no more opportunities for anyone else. Ever. Unless they turn demolition back on, add more wards, or someone randomly decides to get rid of their own house (unlikely).

What you are saying is right, but point am making is you can at least make cool rooms with fc room and apartment which is better than nothing at all.

[Rhea_]

If you really think that, sell your house so someone who does really want one can get it.

Except, you can’t sell your house, that’s why we need the auto demolition enabled, that way you get back a portion of what you bought the house for.

I have a house and leaving the server, this is the only way I can get Gil for my house and have someone else get it.

Are you leaving for a new server?

If so, just remove your estate but don't relinquish it before transferring over to the new world. Not only would you be reimbursed the original cost of the house, you'll also be given an additional 3 million gil to compensate for the potential loss of any unclaimed furnishings.

I’m aware, that’s why I stated moving server is only way to get something for my unused house.
But good point for anyone who are not aware of the rules/guidelines to obtain that transfer incentives.